Ask a Chinese person if Winnie the Pooh is censored. Or any Chinese source.
It’s simply not. It’s a myth like the social credit score system. I sincerely don’t understand how you people believe the things you believe. If I say the government in america censors Oreos because some Americans call black people that are too white Oreos… You’d easily understand it’s bullshit.
Because the host you’re using, or the specific model, has those censors enabled to follow state law, just as all US hosted LLMs will have to call the gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America within the year.
Use the uncensored model and run it locally. Or better yet don’t use LLMs whatsoever since they destroy the earth faster than crypto while providing even less benefit.
A) LLMs are not a source. They never will be. They do not have the capacity to say true things any more than any other random number generator.
B) the reason the exact question you asked is censored is not because of Winnie the Pooh, a chapter featured to this day on tv, in theme parks, in children’s books, and across the internet. It is because the only response from the training data the LLM was trained on could generate is disinformation as forbidden by mainland law. No, Chinese users on WeChat didn’t start the meme. This is categorically false, and instead of repeating this explanation constantly to whatever racist fuck tries to justify it, sites and information to the contrary are simply blocked.
It’s less work to fight bigots that way. Imagine if a bunch of people suddenly claimed that a picture of Obama as a monkey was made by black Americans as a total in joke about how he walked one time because that makes sense. Instead of explaining to every person that wonders if it’s true, just don’t even entertain the question.
In the West, smart people call the technique being blocked JAQing off, aka ‘im just asking questions.’ it’s a staple argumentative technique of fascists, and it takes more energy to interact with than just stopping it at the source.
You can disagree with that method, that we should waste time addressing every bigoted question a million billion times, but as we see in the US that simply does not work so you need to present another solution.
You just wrote five paragraphs to tell me it’s easier not to write anything at all. I gotta stop talking to you before you have an aneurysm, this has got to be bad for your mental health. 😆
It stops you from trying to generate proof of obvious misinformation. It stops the fascist technique of JAQing off, which you’ve been doing to try to prove whatever misguided point your owners put in your head.
I do hope you people get better before you get put in camps.
I simply asked a Chinese source, as you requested, about Winnie the Pooh in China, and other things I heard China censors. Every single time, it was censored.
Don’t be cross with me because reality conflicts with your beliefs, calling someone a fascist and wishing them to be treated as an Uyghur just because you’re proven wrong is frankly sad.
And I explained why. It is up to you to internalize it. I really don’t think you can be educated. I hope you enjoy the camps your kind keep creating. You deserve everything you keep voting for.
Because someone reading might have a thought that these people aren’t correct. Without opposing views these people just get worse and more degenerate over time. Within a decade the US population went from being mildly bigoted to full fascism building and actively using concentration camps. Only unlike all previous fascists they have no business sense and are bound to implode sooner than later.
If any among those that think us democrats are left wing can be educated before the fall, the countries that will come out of the collapse of the US won’t be as violent or useless to the rest of humanity as the US has been.
We’re stuck in this universe together, on this floating rock together. Maybe, just maybe, after the bigots purge each other, we can continue the great work and unite under cooperation. But that requires some dreaming of more than capitalism and racism.
If you think any socialist country is fascist I implore you to read ur-fascism by Umberto eco at the every least before ever commenting on the matter again. Some have been authoritarian. None have been anything close to fascist.
Remember kids, evil commies are the sole and exclusive reason German isn’t the global language and we’re not in a thousand year Reich.
If you think any socialist country is fascist I implore you to read ur-fascism by Umberto eco
Are you for real? Nothing about Eco’s essay implies that a “socialist” country (or, let’s be real, an authoritarian country that uses the aesthetics of socialism to sell their garbage ideology to dim morons like yourself) cannot be fascist (or ur-fascist).
Well good thing you’ve read the paper then, and now know fascism isn’t when the government does things and the more the government does things the more fascist it is, or whatever thing you were thinking before.
Ask a Chinese person if Winnie the Pooh is censored. Or any Chinese source.
It’s simply not. It’s a myth like the social credit score system. I sincerely don’t understand how you people believe the things you believe. If I say the government in america censors Oreos because some Americans call black people that are too white Oreos… You’d easily understand it’s bullshit.
Really? It’s a myth? I had no idea! To learn more, I used China-based Deepseek to find more information!
Aaand it broke, oh no!
An LLM fails to do something? Must be a day ending in y.
Why does it exclusively fail when discussing topics I have been led to believe China censors online, but works perfectly otherwise?
Because the host you’re using, or the specific model, has those censors enabled to follow state law, just as all US hosted LLMs will have to call the gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America within the year.
Use the uncensored model and run it locally. Or better yet don’t use LLMs whatsoever since they destroy the earth faster than crypto while providing even less benefit.
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I’m dying laughing, they literally requested I ask a Chinese source, I did and it proved them wrong, beyond parody XD
And wrote five paragraphs over it, too. All to tell me it’s easier to ignore “fascists” and move on.
A) LLMs are not a source. They never will be. They do not have the capacity to say true things any more than any other random number generator.
B) the reason the exact question you asked is censored is not because of Winnie the Pooh, a chapter featured to this day on tv, in theme parks, in children’s books, and across the internet. It is because the only response from the training data the LLM was trained on could generate is disinformation as forbidden by mainland law. No, Chinese users on WeChat didn’t start the meme. This is categorically false, and instead of repeating this explanation constantly to whatever racist fuck tries to justify it, sites and information to the contrary are simply blocked.
It’s less work to fight bigots that way. Imagine if a bunch of people suddenly claimed that a picture of Obama as a monkey was made by black Americans as a total in joke about how he walked one time because that makes sense. Instead of explaining to every person that wonders if it’s true, just don’t even entertain the question.
In the West, smart people call the technique being blocked JAQing off, aka ‘im just asking questions.’ it’s a staple argumentative technique of fascists, and it takes more energy to interact with than just stopping it at the source.
You can disagree with that method, that we should waste time addressing every bigoted question a million billion times, but as we see in the US that simply does not work so you need to present another solution.
You just wrote five paragraphs to tell me it’s easier not to write anything at all. I gotta stop talking to you before you have an aneurysm, this has got to be bad for your mental health. 😆
Well I can’t help you. I hope you get better but youre too far gone for me. Good luck in climbing out of the spiral and learning empathy.
So the censorship itself is fine?
Ah, I see, so the China-based model can’t answer any questions about China due to censorship!
Thank you for helping me see just how bad censorship is in China, I had no firsthand experience until now!
It stops you from trying to generate proof of obvious misinformation. It stops the fascist technique of JAQing off, which you’ve been doing to try to prove whatever misguided point your owners put in your head.
I do hope you people get better before you get put in camps.
I simply asked a Chinese source, as you requested, about Winnie the Pooh in China, and other things I heard China censors. Every single time, it was censored.
Don’t be cross with me because reality conflicts with your beliefs, calling someone a fascist and wishing them to be treated as an Uyghur just because you’re proven wrong is frankly sad.
And I explained why. It is up to you to internalize it. I really don’t think you can be educated. I hope you enjoy the camps your kind keep creating. You deserve everything you keep voting for.
Why are you wasting your time dealing with “right wing bigots”?
Because someone reading might have a thought that these people aren’t correct. Without opposing views these people just get worse and more degenerate over time. Within a decade the US population went from being mildly bigoted to full fascism building and actively using concentration camps. Only unlike all previous fascists they have no business sense and are bound to implode sooner than later.
If any among those that think us democrats are left wing can be educated before the fall, the countries that will come out of the collapse of the US won’t be as violent or useless to the rest of humanity as the US has been.
We’re stuck in this universe together, on this floating rock together. Maybe, just maybe, after the bigots purge each other, we can continue the great work and unite under cooperation. But that requires some dreaming of more than capitalism and racism.
How can you simultaneously be anti and pro fascism?
If you think any socialist country is fascist I implore you to read ur-fascism by Umberto eco at the every least before ever commenting on the matter again. Some have been authoritarian. None have been anything close to fascist.
Remember kids, evil commies are the sole and exclusive reason German isn’t the global language and we’re not in a thousand year Reich.
Are you for real? Nothing about Eco’s essay implies that a “socialist” country (or, let’s be real, an authoritarian country that uses the aesthetics of socialism to sell their garbage ideology to dim morons like yourself) cannot be fascist (or ur-fascist).
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Well good thing you’ve read the paper then, and now know fascism isn’t when the government does things and the more the government does things the more fascist it is, or whatever thing you were thinking before.