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    okay so that post’s core supposition (“using ptx instead of cuda”) is just fucking wrong fucking weird and I’m not going to spend time on it, but it links to this tweet which has this:

    DeepSeek customized parts of the GPU’s core computational units, called SMs (Streaming Multiprocessors), to suit their needs. Out of 132 SMs, they allocated 20 exclusively for server-to-server communication tasks instead of computational tasks

    this still reads more like simply tuning allocation than outright scheduler and execution control (which your post alluded to)

    [x] doubt

    e: original wording because cuda still uses ptx anyway, whereas this post looks like it’s saying “they steered ptx directly”. at first I read the tweet more like “asm vs python” but it doesn’t appear to be what that part meant to convey. still doubting the core hypothesis tho

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      sidebar: I definitely wouldn’t be surprised if it comes to this overall being a case of “a shop optimised by tuning, and then it suddenly turns out the entire industry has never tried to tune a thing ever”

      because why try hard when the money taps are open and flowing free? velocity over everything! this is the bayfucker way.

    • @fallowseed
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      -25 hours ago

      well you’re always free to doubt and do your own research-- as i mentioned- it is something i read and between believing what the US tech bros are saying when all their money and hegemony is on the line vs what the chinese have given up for free-use, i am going to go out on a limb and trust the chinese. you’re free to make your own decisions in this regard and kudos for having your own mind.

      • @[email protected]
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        34 hours ago

        mine isn’t a “USA v China: Jelly Wrestling Deluxe” comment and you’re not really understanding the point

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          what is your point? i thought i was giving a “explain like i’m 5” answer to a guy asking for one… you came along asking me to show sources… now this?

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            44 hours ago

            the point is that your eli5 is unfounded rumour hearsay bullshit (and thus it’s entirely pointless to spread it), then when giving you a relatively gentle indication of that you decided to cosplay an ostrich

            pro-tip: if it ain’t something you actually understand something about, probably best to avoid uncritically amplifying shit about it

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              -24 hours ago

              so you’re saying i’m wrong and i’m spreading misinfo… its somehow wrong that china got more juice out of the cards by bypassing cuda to better micromanage some aspect of the process?

              • @[email protected]
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                24 hours ago

                its somehow wrong that china got more juice out of the cards by bypassing cuda to better micromanage some aspect of the process?

                according to some shit called xatakaon paraphrasing the parts of Nazi social media frequented by goofy as shit AI grifters

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                  that was the first source i found and used it … and anyway you found the corroborating details yourself which supported my claim…

              • @[email protected]
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                24 hours ago

                you are not tall enough for this ride, go try some candyfloss and walking the hall of mirrors instead