• @[email protected]
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    213 hours ago

    Theoretically maybe, but empirically, humanity was completely unstructured at the beginning and currently not a single anarchist society exists. Why do you think everyone transformed into various kinds of nation-states eventually? Because nation-states were exceptionally good at filling that “power vacuum”. To overpower nation-states, something at least comparable is needed. Transnational corporations/syndicates/unions, something like that.

    • NSRXN
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      29 hours ago

      humanity was completely unstructured at the beginning

      can you cite this?

    • NSRXN
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      213 hours ago

      currently not a single anarchist society exists.

      that’s a lie

      • jrs100000
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        110 hours ago

        Which ones? There are few places on Earth that are not under practical control of a formal government and legal system, and most of those places are either unpopulated or controlled by various local power brokers.

        • NSRXN
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          19 hours ago

          exarcheia and anabaptist sects come directly to mind, but you’ve just excluded them for some reason. it seems like no-true Scotsman to me.

          • @[email protected]
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            34 hours ago

            exarcheia and anabaptist

            Do those guys build their own roads, pipes for water and heat, homes, bake bread, make drugs, provide healthcare? Or do they depend on external nation-states and their economy to exist?

          • jrs100000
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            18 hours ago

            It seems like a pretty good reason to exclude them, considering the criticism being discuss was specifically that they would inevitably decay in to a “might makes right” situation. Communities existing in a situation where police and courts would prevent someone from taking over by force disqualifies them from disproving this hypothesis.

            • NSRXN
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              18 hours ago

              there simply isn’t evidence of some casual mechanism by anarchist societies must decay. their hypothesis can’t be proven. I didn’t even know how it could be tested.

              • @[email protected]
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                24 hours ago

                Why this mechanism has to be casual? Nation-states exist, just imagine existing state like Russia, China or America deciding to take over your anarchist society.

              • jrs100000
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                27 hours ago

                I’m not sure what you want exactly. Its pretty hard to prove a negative, but that does not make the inverse true.

      • @[email protected]
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        011 hours ago

        In the context of previous message I meant anarchist society comparable to state, at least very small state. Not just a club of shared interests with members living their lives in regular nation-states. Do you have any examples in mind?