• Drusas
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      171 month ago

      Both can be true. But only if you have enough people in either case.

    • @[email protected]
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      21 month ago

      If you want for the police to get an excuse to mow you down with a tank that is. They so wish some of you have guns so they can kill you and have a ready and ironclad excuse

      • @[email protected]
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        It’s not like they’re above shooting unarmed protestors. Just compare how cops dealt with cop city with the Bundy occupation.

        • @[email protected]
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          But that’s the thing. Shooting unarmed protestors is fucked up even by their standards, they aren’t above it, but they have to hide it and not everyone is having a good time about it, so there is tension and hesitation.
          Shooting armed protestors is why they joined in the first place, it’s what they dream of, it’s everything that a cop ever wanted.
          And a big portion of population that is not OK with the first scenario is also dreaming of the second one.

      • @Ensign_Crab
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        71 month ago

        All they need is one agent provocateur for that, then.

        • @[email protected]
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          One agent in a crowd of unarmed people will not cause that effect. But if everyone is on edge and carrying a gun, then yes, one will be enough to cause full blown massacre.

          • @Ensign_Crab
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            116 days ago

            One agent in a crowd of unarmed people will not cause that effect.

            It will if police are present and are looking for an excuse to violently quash protest.

            • @[email protected]
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              116 days ago

              I just want you to recognise the difference between “police mows down a crowd of unarmed protesters” and “police crushed armed insurrection in an intense shootout”.

              • @Ensign_Crab
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                It just takes one provocateur to make that difference. The number of actual firearms at the protest doesn’t matter as long as there’s one, which the provocateur can bring.

                • @[email protected]
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                  No, it’s demonstrably not true. Or do you think nobody ever does protest around the world and we can’t study this shit?
                  Hell, there was the exact same situation in Ukraine in 2014, it’s one of the best documented revolutions of the current era. Putin’s cronies tried to do provocaterur shit, and shot back, and there was so much backlash to it from everywhere, this ultimately brought them defeat.
                  I once again want you to recognise the difference between “police mows down a crowd of unarmed protesters” and “police crushed armed insurrection in an intense shootout”, but this time I want you to do it for real, not just knee-jerking canned response.

                  • @Ensign_Crab
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                    113 days ago

                    I once again want you to recognise the difference between “police mows down a crowd of unarmed protesters” and “police crushed armed insurrection in an intense shootout”, but this time I want you to do it for real, not just knee-jerking canned response.

                    When the police call the latter the former, you will believe them.

                    There’s a difference in reality, yes. But in most of the US, whatever the pigs say is believed immediately and without question.

    • @Cypher
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      Are you saying illegal immigrants should illegally obtain firearms?