• @tgm
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    171 month ago

    Why was he sedated with ketamine? Surely, there are better options?

    • Granbo's Holy Hotrod
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      211 month ago

      I don’t think, “Dont harass innocent people.” is on the list.

      • @tgm
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        21 month ago

        Of course that would ideal, but IF someone should be sedated, why use ketamine?

        • @[email protected]
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          11 month ago

          Compared to other sedatives, ketamine can have a safer effect profile in that it doesn’t mess with the person’s breathing and doesn’t massively slow down their heart rate. An excessive dose can result in a heart rate that is too high and that can collapse into cardiac arrest, but other fast-acting sedatives usually mean that you have to intubate the person because they aren’t going to be breathing adequately on their own until the drug wears off.

          • @tgm
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            11 month ago

            I did not know that, in fact I thought it was the other way around

            • @[email protected]
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              11 month ago

              The biggest risk with ketamine is the tachycardia, but the other most common twilight sedative, propofol, runs a higher risk of the recipient slowing or stopping their breathing. In my medical experience, ketamine is commonly used for twilight sedation to set broken bones, and propofol is commonly used for short procedures like colonoscopies.

              • @tgm
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                230 days ago

                Interesting, I did not know that, thanks. Still a horrible event, but perhaps not as medically unsound as I initially assumed. I am not saying that sedation was the right call

                • @[email protected]
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                  130 days ago

                  It absolutely was not the right call. In the ER, we use stuff like Haldol for combative patients, it’s substantially less dangerous for the patient, but it takes a couple minutes to kick in.

        • @[email protected]
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          11 month ago

          Because the police have no medical training and still get to tell paramedics what drugs to use.

          Ketamine can be used to knock people out, and you can see why the police like that. Of course knocking people out is also super dangerous, and shouldn’t be done unless it’s medically needed.

          • @tgm
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            11 month ago

            What fuck. Do police have say over which drugs are used? That sounds unreal, utterly surreal.