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Donald Trump has said that Palestinians have “no alternative” but to leave Gaza due to the devastation left by Israel’s war on Hamas, in effect endorsing ethnic cleansing of the territory over the opposition of Palestinians and the neighbouring countries.
Speaking as he prepared to host Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, on Tuesday, Trump repeated the suggestion that Gaza’s population should be relocated to Jordan and Egypt – something both countries have firmly rejected.
Trump claimed Palestinians would “love to leave Gaza”, telling reporters: “I would think that they would be thrilled.”
Ahhh… okay. Good! Now we’re getting somewhere! You openly admit to…. rejecting our “stupid fucking choices,” but simultaneously demand that we all unite together under your anti-genocide banner.
Got it.
Noble effort, not too many flaws that I can see in the reasoning- genocide… absolutely is a horrid act… no question there, but… the logic in this…. “idea” only works if we were suspend enough disbelief to assume that looking at two identical candidates in all other regards and capacity.
Reality is showing you that this isn’t the case.
Because you see, your rejection of OUR “stupid fucking choice” not only opened the floodgates of FAR worse suffering in Palestine, but you also pretty much threw the the entirely of the LGB¹ and minorities under the bus along with so many other marginalized people in America,
All because of your entitlement.
I’ll even bet… that if I looked back through the year and a half or so of your existence here on lemmy… I’d find that prior to October, you had nothing at all to say about the plight of Palestine.
Yeah… you’re not “we.” We tried to stop this. You didn’t.
¹ - You might not be familiar with this new acronym. They used to be referred to as LGBTQ+ but because of the consequences of non-voters and protests voters, the “T” is not recognized as existing any more.
In your society’s made up system, that you refuse to abandon, despite the fact that its very existence threatens extinction for the human race?
You played their game, by their rules. You lost. We wanted to either play their game by OUR rules, or quit their game. That was a viable strategy, IF THE POPULATION TOOK IT. But one sane person in Nazi Germany couldn’t stop WW2. They ALL needed to be aware.
#deep
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You quit the game. You lost. Being so delusional as to think an entire population would turn on a dime is hilariously sad. All your efforts did was turn voters away that could have worked against the cliff we now face. MAGA was always going to be a minority of moron, but you people really gave them the leg up they needed to win the final fight. GJ
Yes, damn my unrealistic standards for not wanting the population to support any genocidal politicians.
Let me educate you about “the game”. We all had the ability to vote for anyone on the ballot, or even write in candidates that weren’t on the ballot (besides one state where they actually said they’d discard write-ins). There was no lift for the population to do this. The media framed it as D vs. R., you all decided any third party was “unrealistic”, and that self-fulfilling prophecy cost any third party candidate the votes. Your D candidate couldn’t secure the votes. Our Green or Socialist or whatever candidate couldn’t secure the votes. Who is really to blame? The population didn’t unite enough behind anyone to win. The person you guys united behind was a fucking monster, even though you got the lion’s share of non-Trump votes. Do you have any other basis for voting for a political candidate, to rule over our entire society, besides how fucking popular they are?
What did Palestine expect the outcome of Oct 7th to be? What was that intended to accomplish, vs what actually happened?
Rewrite your comment except make it about “the Jews” re: the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. How does it sound when you frame it that way?
So now you’re trying to frame Oct 7th as a defensive action against an invading force? This shit is why you don’t get support from people who aren’t myopically pro-palestine.
It’s the international consensus that Palestine is under military occupation from “Israel”. Military action against occupation is an enshrined right under international law. The exception of course is attacks against civilians - which are not considered legal, hence the ICC arrest warrants being for both Netanyahu/Gallant, and Hamas leaders - but also which didn’t solely characterize the actions on Oct. 7. That is the actual, nuance, objective description of Oct. 7. No analogy is perfect. The Jewish militants in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising were likely signficantly more targeted against Nazi soldiers and paramilitaries, but at the same time, they also hadn’t been stuck in the Warsaw Ghetto for a staggering 56 years, under a choking blockade since 2006.
So you made a stupid statement, and when I call you out you shuffle the goalposts around. Yes, this is why you outside your circle you’re just an angry buzzing noise.
I’m sure being rude to people will definitely get them to do what you want and abandon society.
I know I’m always able to get my way by being rude.
What rudeness? In that comment?
If you can’t see how what you said was rude, I think you have big problems.