You seem to be taking a hard-right on topic. I’m not sure this next gishgallop is meaningful to me because I’m not sure what you are trying to get out of this.
If you’re trying to convince me or anyone else to become a vegan, you really need to find reasons that are topical to why they reject veganism. As someone who is aware of people being injured in plant farm accidents and who buys local so doesn’t contribute to any of the above, this really feels like a desperation move on your part. Just keep throwing things till something sticks? If you’re really convinced you’re right, maybe you should stick to your guns and a single topic?
You don’t have to see non human animals as living beeings, even it you think they are just things, you could care about the humans involved.
I do see the animals as living beings. I also care about the humans involved. I have put time and money into fighting for animal rights and safety in industry in general. But if I’m not going to convince you to stop eating vegetables based on unsafe and unfair labor/purchasing from farms in third world countries, you’re not going to convince me to stop eating local meat because of a single kid dying in a massive factory-farm plant for a company that doesn’t even serve my area.
Do you have studies that ALL plant farms are always safer than all animal farms? Because as far as I’m aware, plant farmers have one of the world’s most dangerous jobs in terms of deaths and on-site accidents (8th most deadly, but who is counting? :) ). Yeah, they like to combine the numbers, but the #1 cause of injury and death (by a large margin) are tractors, which are used for plants and not animals.
By your logic, why exactly should I not be eating meat exclusively?
EDIT: Interestingly to my complaints about logistics, delivery drivers have a higher death toll than farmers. For everyone injured or killed in your articles linked above, there are several people dying delivering frozen tofu cross country to people who have been convinced they shouldn’t be eating the local chicken.
I thought you follow logic but you are just concern trolling. If you would care about other countries, other people and animals and have some sense of biology you would look at the rain forests and see that they are burnt down for your food. Animal food industry is a wasteful business that is unsustainable. You profit from the systematic exploitation of workers and animals. I am really convinced that I am right because it like thermodynamics, you are the on dreaming of manure being a magic sludge that just produces nutrients from thin air.
(8th most deadly, but who is counting? :) ).
With that “:)” You have disqualified yourself to be taken seriously while the meat industry has the highest suicide rate everywhere in the world. You don’t even care about humans. Tractors which are used mainly for animal feed. I have proven your numbers wrong with a easy to read source.
frozen tofu my ass. All animal products need a cooled delivery chain, my tofu is from beans grown near me. You just try to make up bullshit to convince your sorry ass you are doing the right thing. All fake news and “they” lie all to you.
At this point, you’re just trolling. You literally pretending me using a smiley appropriately disqualifies me to be taken seriously. I have no choice but to categorize you with the guy on the subway who tells me I’m going to hell for not accepting his god.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/kids-found-working-graveyard-shifts-on-meat-plant-kill-floors-for-packers-sanitation-services-feds-say
https://www.wdam.com/2023/07/17/16-year-old-dies-accident-mar-jac-poultry-plant/
https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-50986683
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28506017/
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2016/08/11/489468205/working-the-chain-slaughterhouse-workers-face-lifelong-injuries
You don’t have to see non human animals as living beeings, even it you think they are just things, you could care about the humans involved.
My neighbor had pigs until the gases fucked up his lungs now he has to roll with O2
You seem to be taking a hard-right on topic. I’m not sure this next gishgallop is meaningful to me because I’m not sure what you are trying to get out of this.
If you’re trying to convince me or anyone else to become a vegan, you really need to find reasons that are topical to why they reject veganism. As someone who is aware of people being injured in plant farm accidents and who buys local so doesn’t contribute to any of the above, this really feels like a desperation move on your part. Just keep throwing things till something sticks? If you’re really convinced you’re right, maybe you should stick to your guns and a single topic?
I do see the animals as living beings. I also care about the humans involved. I have put time and money into fighting for animal rights and safety in industry in general. But if I’m not going to convince you to stop eating vegetables based on unsafe and unfair labor/purchasing from farms in third world countries, you’re not going to convince me to stop eating local meat because of a single kid dying in a massive factory-farm plant for a company that doesn’t even serve my area.
Do you have studies that ALL plant farms are always safer than all animal farms? Because as far as I’m aware, plant farmers have one of the world’s most dangerous jobs in terms of deaths and on-site accidents (8th most deadly, but who is counting? :) ). Yeah, they like to combine the numbers, but the #1 cause of injury and death (by a large margin) are tractors, which are used for plants and not animals.
By your logic, why exactly should I not be eating meat exclusively?
EDIT: Interestingly to my complaints about logistics, delivery drivers have a higher death toll than farmers. For everyone injured or killed in your articles linked above, there are several people dying delivering frozen tofu cross country to people who have been convinced they shouldn’t be eating the local chicken.
Ah shit r/antivegan is leaking.
I thought you follow logic but you are just concern trolling. If you would care about other countries, other people and animals and have some sense of biology you would look at the rain forests and see that they are burnt down for your food. Animal food industry is a wasteful business that is unsustainable. You profit from the systematic exploitation of workers and animals. I am really convinced that I am right because it like thermodynamics, you are the on dreaming of manure being a magic sludge that just produces nutrients from thin air.
With that “:)” You have disqualified yourself to be taken seriously while the meat industry has the highest suicide rate everywhere in the world. You don’t even care about humans. Tractors which are used mainly for animal feed. I have proven your numbers wrong with a easy to read source.
frozen tofu my ass. All animal products need a cooled delivery chain, my tofu is from beans grown near me. You just try to make up bullshit to convince your sorry ass you are doing the right thing. All fake news and “they” lie all to you.
Beefcentral if you like that source more: https://www.beefcentral.com/news/ipcc-report-recommends-eating-more-plant-based-protein/
You are just a fact denier at that point, and a lire if you say you fight for animal rights.
At this point, you’re just trolling. You literally pretending me using a smiley appropriately disqualifies me to be taken seriously. I have no choice but to categorize you with the guy on the subway who tells me I’m going to hell for not accepting his god.