• @surph_ninja
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    45 days ago

    Yes, one Luigi will not solve the problem. Once you get past 4 or 5, you’ll find less people willing to take on the risk of the job. You get to a dozen, and you’ll be shocked just how much progress we get.

    • @finitebanjo
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      -85 days ago

      If nobody does the job then nobody gets health insurance and everything is out of pocket for everyone, you realize? Even worse now that the USA Federal Government is freezing funds for Medicaid.

      • @[email protected]
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        75 days ago

        You’re forgetting the rest of the developed world has a different system. I wonder what that system looks like.

        I’m British and never had to worry about healthcare because although we are USA Lite, we are not that bad.

        • @finitebanjo
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          -85 days ago

          Murdering any number of random people does NOT create a system like the rest of the developed world has. That is not how THEY got theirs to begin with.

          • @[email protected]
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            85 days ago

            If I murder all Americans and took over the country I could do what I want, so there is absolutely a number of people you could kill to achieve it.

          • @surph_ninja
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            45 days ago

            Correct. Random murder would accomplish nothing. But that’s not what I’d call targeted assassinations of the most corrupt and evil people on the planet, who are profiting from untold suffering.

            • @finitebanjo
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              -65 days ago

              The corrupt evil people can reproduce faster than a few planned assassinations can cull, you also don’t get any say in who the next targets are, and even if the practices stop we have to implement actual legal policy changes to make them stop forever or they will return as soon as somebody figures out there is profit to be made.

              • @surph_ninja
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                45 days ago

                Incorrect. The number of people willing to risk their lives for greed would naturally reduce as the risk grows. The unpredictability of targets would increase the risk factor for them.

                And laws can be bought, as we’ve already seen. Making them fear for their lives will buy results like no laws ever could. That’s exactly how we got most of our labor protections.

                • @finitebanjo
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                  -45 days ago

                  The people running UHC clearly don’t think so.

                  • @surph_ninja
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                    35 days ago

                    You’re right. One dead CEO can be written off as a fluke.

          • @michaelmrose
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            25 days ago

            Many countries in fact had to kill a bunch of monarchists to get where they are today

            • @finitebanjo
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              04 days ago

              Many countries live in Fascism

              And the USA is the end result of the pipeline you described anyways

      • @nimbledaemon
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        15 days ago

        The end result is not that no one wants to be a CEO of a health insurance company, the end result is that health insurance CEO’s run their companies in a way that doesn’t increase the likelihood that some vigilante Luigi’s them. Either that or they switch to a company model that doesn’t need CEO’s, so there’s no one person to target as responsible. There’s a market niche that needs to be filled no matter how many CEO’s die. Obviously this isn’t the most desirable end state (public health care anyone?) but I think that’s where this system finds its balance rather than health insurance just going away.

        • @finitebanjo
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          -45 days ago

          That’s a nice theory but it relies on there only being a very small number of people who would abuse a gap in regulations to enrich themselves. I think the vast majority would take advantage of that sort of flaw if put in a position to do so.

          Instead, why don’t you just organize the health insurance coop now instead of waiting for random murders to start happening?

          • @nimbledaemon
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            15 days ago

            The theory does not actually have anything to do with how many people are willing to abuse a gap in regulations for personal gain, it’s analyzing the dynamic between people who would abuse the system for personal gain, and that abuse causing a situation where people will enact vigilante justice against the first group. So people who are self interested will be less likely to abuse the system in ways that mark them as a target. All it requires is that the vigilantism is common and a known factor to the people abusing the system, so that the ways they choose to abuse the system are less obvious. Of course it could go any number of ways based on other factors, I’m just commenting on the dynamics of the interaction here.

            • @finitebanjo
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              -45 days ago

              Ah so you’re saying IF the majority of the population would abuse the system, then you want to kill the majority of people.

              • @nimbledaemon
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                15 days ago

                I’m not actually indicating my personal preference on the situation at all, just my perception on the dynamics at play.