“You better get creative” at telling people to stop being such fucking bigots? Do you even pay attention to yourself?
And that puts me in the progressive camp where I am shat upon by the population just as much as you feel now, if not more.
Oh really? How many times has someone yelled a vile bigoted slur at you in the past year because of what you look like? How many times in your life did someone physically assault you because of what you look like? Because it’s more than zero for me. How often are you told you have dual allegiances due to who your parents are, which is why genocide is your fault? Because it’s a hell of a lot more than zero for me.
How many times in your life did someone physically assault you because of what you look like?
You’re talking to the wrong guy. Many. I grew up in the inner city and was one of the only white kids in my grade school or neighborhood. I’d get chased around by groups of kids and beaten up. Very often --once they found out they could-- I’d have one of my knees dislocated. I spent a lot of time hiding in the bushes. I had bright red hair, am small and was skinny, and looked like howdy doodie-- or so I’m told, so even after we moved from that place, I’ve been singled out for my looks here and there. Until I grew big enough to go all in on fighting back, and shortened my hair to stubble.
A lot of fighting back is intellect. Understanding who was just teasing and could be joked with to defuse, who was just following, and who I had to fight, understanding when and where it was safe to enter a restroom.
I’m an old man now. A few times per year I still relive the fear of being chased and understanding that violence was about to happen when I hear or see other people being chased in movies. I cant look at that stuff. Being surrounded and overpowered is pretty visceral, and is having your leg yanked and twisted to dislocate it–especially when they cant remember which knee it was. I know exactly what reliving PTSD is. The severity comes and goes, but its more severe over time than makes any logical sense, and I sit there sort of stunned while I relive it. Which actually becomes …tedious in its lack of healing. Frankly, at a certain period in my life, I became a bully myself. The fight changes you I think.
Do my creds check out enough?
My point was, conflict requires intellect, and you I dont see that you are applying that intellect.
Yes good point, clearly my story was steeped in “white” privilege, rather than understanding and dissecting conflict and trauma.
You know squid, here the thing. Whenever issues of Israel and the the palestinian genocide pop up, I see lots of hysterical posts like yours. Theres a clear pattern of attempting bury the lead in their own self interest, and push antisemitism to the fore to the exclusion of everything else. Exactly like you’re doing now. So are you commenting in good faith right now? I cant say for sure. But your last comment shows you minimize every other concern in order to yell and potentially bully. I’d care more about your words if you talked about doing the right thing and human rights – you know, the context of whats going on-- rather than this woe is me thing, nobody knows my sorrows shtick that comes across. I have no doubt you’ve experienced attacks based on your ethnicity, but many of us have-- many of us much more severe than yours. As an frequent OP and mod somewhere you could focus on leading forward toward everyones shared interests despite your experience. You’re not doing that. if you have any interest in being a better person, do better.
Everything in the world is not about just you being jewish and that some people at some point called you names. As minority pain and lack of safety goes these days, your pain is laughably small and your continual exclusive focus on YOUR pain to the exclusion of all else, seemingly to hold some lofty perch of victimization, is pathetic.
You want to hate injustice? then hate injustice and pull your head out of your rear about your own comparitively small pains. You want to be selfish, then continue mewling like a farm animal which only cares about its itchy butt, like you are now.
Try being Palestinian, or Arab in the western world, or black. or a indigenous person of any kind-- australia, the most of US, lots of places. You arent in danger on a daily basis, much as you’d like to claim you constantly are. Other people actually are in danger, and are starving and suffering greivous harm as we speak. You want people to care about you, then care about them. Get some effing perspective.
I should be like “the good ones” and not speak up.
But you know what liars us Jews are.
These are all your words. You always sign off with a racial slur couched as an accusation, and the only one using these slurs around here is you-- because they are not permitted here. I’m going to report this nonsense.
Your pattern of conjuring up the worst slur against you and accusing other people of that is as odious as its use by others would be against you, and I’m tired of allowing it. Racial slurs and bigotry dont belong here, and I question whether you belong as an op or mod on lemmy if this is how you operate day to day.
“You better get creative” at telling people to stop being such fucking bigots? Do you even pay attention to yourself?
Oh really? How many times has someone yelled a vile bigoted slur at you in the past year because of what you look like? How many times in your life did someone physically assault you because of what you look like? Because it’s more than zero for me. How often are you told you have dual allegiances due to who your parents are, which is why genocide is your fault? Because it’s a hell of a lot more than zero for me.
But sure, you get shat upon so much more.
(Typical whiny Jew, am I right?)
You’re talking to the wrong guy. Many. I grew up in the inner city and was one of the only white kids in my grade school or neighborhood. I’d get chased around by groups of kids and beaten up. Very often --once they found out they could-- I’d have one of my knees dislocated. I spent a lot of time hiding in the bushes. I had bright red hair, am small and was skinny, and looked like howdy doodie-- or so I’m told, so even after we moved from that place, I’ve been singled out for my looks here and there. Until I grew big enough to go all in on fighting back, and shortened my hair to stubble.
A lot of fighting back is intellect. Understanding who was just teasing and could be joked with to defuse, who was just following, and who I had to fight, understanding when and where it was safe to enter a restroom.
I’m an old man now. A few times per year I still relive the fear of being chased and understanding that violence was about to happen when I hear or see other people being chased in movies. I cant look at that stuff. Being surrounded and overpowered is pretty visceral, and is having your leg yanked and twisted to dislocate it–especially when they cant remember which knee it was. I know exactly what reliving PTSD is. The severity comes and goes, but its more severe over time than makes any logical sense, and I sit there sort of stunned while I relive it. Which actually becomes …tedious in its lack of healing. Frankly, at a certain period in my life, I became a bully myself. The fight changes you I think.
Do my creds check out enough?
My point was, conflict requires intellect, and you I dont see that you are applying that intellect.
You could have stopped with “white.”
Also, you think I was talking about when I was a kid?
Yes good point, clearly my story was steeped in “white” privilege, rather than understanding and dissecting conflict and trauma.
You know squid, here the thing. Whenever issues of Israel and the the palestinian genocide pop up, I see lots of hysterical posts like yours. Theres a clear pattern of attempting bury the lead in their own self interest, and push antisemitism to the fore to the exclusion of everything else. Exactly like you’re doing now. So are you commenting in good faith right now? I cant say for sure. But your last comment shows you minimize every other concern in order to yell and potentially bully. I’d care more about your words if you talked about doing the right thing and human rights – you know, the context of whats going on-- rather than this woe is me thing, nobody knows my sorrows shtick that comes across. I have no doubt you’ve experienced attacks based on your ethnicity, but many of us have-- many of us much more severe than yours. As an frequent OP and mod somewhere you could focus on leading forward toward everyones shared interests despite your experience. You’re not doing that. if you have any interest in being a better person, do better.
Yes, well us Jews are known for being “hysterical” when faced with perfectly justifiable bigotry against us.
I should be like “the good ones” and not speak up.
Everything in the world is not about just you being jewish and that some people at some point called you names. As minority pain and lack of safety goes these days, your pain is laughably small and your continual exclusive focus on YOUR pain to the exclusion of all else, seemingly to hold some lofty perch of victimization, is pathetic.
You want to hate injustice? then hate injustice and pull your head out of your rear about your own comparitively small pains. You want to be selfish, then continue mewling like a farm animal which only cares about its itchy butt, like you are now.
Try being Palestinian, or Arab in the western world, or black. or a indigenous person of any kind-- australia, the most of US, lots of places. You arent in danger on a daily basis, much as you’d like to claim you constantly are. Other people actually are in danger, and are starving and suffering greivous harm as we speak. You want people to care about you, then care about them. Get some effing perspective.
True. However, this thing that you just said one comment up sure looks like it’s about me:
Since this isn’t about me, when you said “hysterical posts like yours,” were you talking to a person standing behind me or what?
Also, I was literally talking about being physically assaulted, not just called names. But you know what liars us Jews are.
These are all your words. You always sign off with a racial slur couched as an accusation, and the only one using these slurs around here is you-- because they are not permitted here. I’m going to report this nonsense.
Your pattern of conjuring up the worst slur against you and accusing other people of that is as odious as its use by others would be against you, and I’m tired of allowing it. Racial slurs and bigotry dont belong here, and I question whether you belong as an op or mod on lemmy if this is how you operate day to day.
I know what my words were.
And I think it’s hilarious that you are accusing me of using racial slurs against myself.
Do you get similarly incensed when black people use the N-word?