“We are fighting the wrong enemy.” Allen Dulles expressed this sentiment in 1942, while serving as the Swiss director of the OSS. He had reevaluated the ongoing war with Nazi Germany and decided that the Communist threat was far graver than the National Socialist one.
Are you or are you not claiming that @Rhoeri above considers Nazis to be the lesser threat? Since that’s been the direction this conversation was in when you joined.
@finitebanjo: $Tankies_rant
@TokenBoomer: The Nazis are in power, and you’re fighting tankies?
@Rhoeri: Yes, there’s two fronts
@TokenBoomer: Allen Dulles also thought Communists are the more important enemy
You, direct quote: “They’re literally saying Nazis are also their enemies.”
Me: Yes, exactly.
That is the context. Dulles thought communists are a “graver threat” than the Nazis, meaning he, also, considers both to be a threat. I don’t know who Rhoeri considers worse, (though if this is anything to go by, finitebanjo seems to think they’re one and the same). Either are welcome to elaborate their position at their leisure should they see fit. If the “greater enemy” is what you wanted to pivot the argument around, your reply should have read “They never said Nazis were the greater threat”, the way you phrased it, it looks like you’re misunderstanding Dulles.
On a separate note, I resent you starting this conversation with a sliding tackle, demanding evidence, calling me dishonest and pretending, and ending on an implied insult. Stop trying to spin minor misunderstandings into full blown arguments. You’re getting a reputation, and so is .world, and it’s for a reason.
You’re in good company
They’re literally saying Nazis are also their enemies.
So is Dulles. He said “greater threat”.
Where is your evidence that the person above believes the same thing?
…I’m sorry, what?
Are you or are you not claiming that @Rhoeri above considers Nazis to be the lesser threat? Since that’s been the direction this conversation was in when you joined.
I’m claiming Dulles considered Nazis a threat. Smaller than the Soviets, but still a threat.
How dishonest of you to pretend this discussion had no context.
Unfortunately, it does.
Or are you saying you don’t understand how context works?
Oh for fuck’s…
@finitebanjo: $Tankies_rant @TokenBoomer: The Nazis are in power, and you’re fighting tankies? @Rhoeri: Yes, there’s two fronts @TokenBoomer: Allen Dulles also thought Communists are the more important enemy You, direct quote: “They’re literally saying Nazis are also their enemies.” Me: Yes, exactly.
That is the context. Dulles thought communists are a “graver threat” than the Nazis, meaning he, also, considers both to be a threat. I don’t know who Rhoeri considers worse, (though if this is anything to go by, finitebanjo seems to think they’re one and the same). Either are welcome to elaborate their position at their leisure should they see fit. If the “greater enemy” is what you wanted to pivot the argument around, your reply should have read “They never said Nazis were the greater threat”, the way you phrased it, it looks like you’re misunderstanding Dulles.
On a separate note, I resent you starting this conversation with a sliding tackle, demanding evidence, calling me dishonest and pretending, and ending on an implied insult. Stop trying to spin minor misunderstandings into full blown arguments. You’re getting a reputation, and so is .world, and it’s for a reason.