I know plenty of supposed leftists (really these are people who spend 90% of their time criticizing liberals and calling them “shitlibs”) who are relieved that Trump is in office, say that he is better than Kamala on Gaza, and believe that America’s descent into fascism will spur a revolution that will save humanity.
In fairness, it is possible that it takes a decent into fascismto wake the people up. Or it could be like ww2, where it gives the world a common enemy to defeat. Noone knows. So they could be right. Less probable things have happened… like trumps 1st term. Noone saw that coming 4 years before it happened.
The reality is that noone knows what the result of thier actions will really be on the world stage.
“It’s possible” is a god-awful basis for a political strategy that involves electing a known fascist.
Or it could be like ww2, where it gives the world a common enemy to defeat.
Who cares? Having a common enemy to defeat isn’t a “good” thing, this isn’t a superhero movie. It’s a sign that evil people have become too powerful. Millions of people died in WWII as a result. And fascism is still going strong around the world.
There are a lot of very clearly known things, and accelerationists ignore all of those in favour of a crackpot theory of social change.
Well you implied that anyone who believed in the possibility that decending into facsism could end up with positive results was stupid. I just pointed out that history shows it can end well for the rest of the world and that eventually the nation in question can recover. So it isn’t stupid, just a difference of opinion.
I know plenty of supposed leftists (really these are people who spend 90% of their time criticizing liberals and calling them “shitlibs”)
Seems like what most “leftists” on lemmy are… It’s almost like a concerted effort to make leftists, as a whole, look bad. So people associate the word with these insufferable blowhards, and not actual progressive thought and political/economic theory.
I know plenty of supposed leftists (really these are people who spend 90% of their time criticizing liberals and calling them “shitlibs”) who are relieved that Trump is in office, say that he is better than Kamala on Gaza, and believe that America’s descent into fascism will spur a revolution that will save humanity.
Don’t underestimate people’s stupidity.
In fairness, it is possible that it takes a decent into fascismto wake the people up. Or it could be like ww2, where it gives the world a common enemy to defeat. Noone knows. So they could be right. Less probable things have happened… like trumps 1st term. Noone saw that coming 4 years before it happened. The reality is that noone knows what the result of thier actions will really be on the world stage.
“It’s possible” is a god-awful basis for a political strategy that involves electing a known fascist.
Who cares? Having a common enemy to defeat isn’t a “good” thing, this isn’t a superhero movie. It’s a sign that evil people have become too powerful. Millions of people died in WWII as a result. And fascism is still going strong around the world.
There are a lot of very clearly known things, and accelerationists ignore all of those in favour of a crackpot theory of social change.
Well you implied that anyone who believed in the possibility that decending into facsism could end up with positive results was stupid. I just pointed out that history shows it can end well for the rest of the world and that eventually the nation in question can recover. So it isn’t stupid, just a difference of opinion.
Seems like what most “leftists” on lemmy are… It’s almost like a concerted effort to make leftists, as a whole, look bad. So people associate the word with these insufferable blowhards, and not actual progressive thought and political/economic theory.