• @teslasaur
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    -19 hours ago

    Trans girls are not stronger than other girls. Any increased muscle mass vanishes with hormone therapy as the testosterone supporting it goes away.

    Yeah, but then you’d need rules for checking that too.

    And of those three ONLY the first can be of any value

    Yes, and one is enough for making competitions unfair.

    • Natanox
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      38 hours ago

      Those rules are already in place, professional sports require trans athletes to receive treatment in a controlled environment to make sure it’s all fair. Hell, they check literally every athlete for Olympia or other big tournaments. And if you can prove that thicker bones than average give you an unfair advantage in some way go ahead and tell the professionals who literally look into this very topic the whole fucking time. In Badminton thicker bones are even worse because they potentially slow you down a tiny bit. And advantages due to size are a normal problem to deal with in sports and no trans-specific issue, just look at Basketball. Until there are proper arguments this whole discussion is just evidence for either transphobia or lack of knowledge, nothing more.

      • ObliviousEnlightenment
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        24 hours ago

        Thanks for bringing up the bone point. Something noone seems to acknowledge in this argument is that anything that couldnt be changed would come with just as many disadvantages as advantages. Even then, you can make things fair without outright bans. Discuss is co ed but womens are half the weight, an argument they themselves used

      • @teslasaur
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        -48 hours ago

        Those rules are already in place, professional sports require trans athletes to receive treatment in a controlled environment to make sure it’s all fair.

        Wrong, most sports don’t. Most countries don’t. Most countries doesn’t acknowledge that being trans is even a real condition.

        I saw a documentary of the olympic “spot checks” for potential men competing with women. It’s a shit show. They knocked on the doors at the hotels and asked them to show what’s between their legs. I guess it’s something, but kind of “ad hoc” and likely more undignified than it needs to be.

        • Natanox
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          26 hours ago

          Wrong, most sports don’t. Most countries don’t. Most countries doesn’t acknowledge that being trans is even a real condition.

          You literally invalidate your own argument instantly. Countries that do not acknowledge trans people exist obviously do also not allow them to sports, therefore not doing anything that would even remotely resemble an attempt at fair treatment.

          And yes, the current “tests” are more often than not a shitshow. That’s literally what I pointed out before, cis-women also suffer from this nonsense. However international tournament still do them in one way or another in a really bad attempt at doing something.

          I’ve got enough of this bullshit. If you keep being a transphobic prick (“men competing with women”) that prefers the “if in doubt, throw them out” method then we’ve nothing to say to each other. You evidently preferred to show everyone you’re a real dick.

          • @teslasaur
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            -25 hours ago

            Wrong again. They would be allowed to compete with men. As that is the open class.