Summary

Donald Trump stated that Palestinians displaced by Israel’s military actions would not have a right to return to Gaza under his plan.

Instead, he proposed resettling them in Egypt and Jordan, despite both nations rejecting the idea.

Trump suggested creating permanent refugee communities funded by the U.S., calling Gaza a “real estate development for the future.”

His proposal has drawn condemnation from Arab nations and legal experts, with the UN warning it could constitute ethnic cleansing and violate international law.

Israel’s far-right settlers welcomed the plan.

  • @distantsounds
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    Biden: I just have to aid genocide during an election year when I’m up against an absolute fascist.

    Edit: cope and deal with it

        • @[email protected]
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          1619 hours ago

          “Ooh I have a choice between genocide or genocide with extra fucking awful fascist bullshit. Which shall I choose? I know, I’ll go for the obviously worse option because I’m a good person” <— you

          • @distantsounds
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            018 hours ago

            I voted dem, my state is blue, and we have a great local community. It’s been awful in Gaza long before trump. You can stand by whatever level of government funded genocide you want. There is nuance to voting, but not when I comes to aiding war crimes when you have complete power to stop sending munitions

            • @[email protected]
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              118 hours ago

              OK, but you do realize that there was no option in this election that would achieve the results they wanted, right?

              There was a choice for the status quo, and one to make things exponentially worse. People chose the exponentially worse option and are idiots for it.

              • @distantsounds
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                018 hours ago

                Yeah, I know all that and voted with that in mind. I live in a non swing state. I’m not still defending genocide in comment sections 3 months after the election. You do realize it would have been cheaper for Biden to not send munitions and win over voters had he not continued on as he did. Untapped voting bloc, the nongenocide vote.

    • @atomicorange
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      Do you think the message got across to him? Did the DNC learn anything?

      • @distantsounds
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        No, he’s a demented old man who broke many promises…like only running 1 term. That doesn’t mean you don’t say anything. It’s almost as if they are representing the will of the people…you need to show up and say something…like using your 1st amendment rights to organize and protest

        Edit: fuck trump, his supporters & and anyone who can’t understand Biden’s role in giving the presidency back to trump. You can also add anyone in swing states that voted 3rd party/abstained

        • @atomicorange
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          I’d like to earnestly suggest you reevaluate your strategy. Clearly threatening/withholding general election votes hasn’t been successful, and there’s obviously a lot of risk of negative outcomes like Trump winning. I think the general election is just too late in the process for a protest vote to mean anything.

          I’m all for showing up and saying something, and I think pressure and threats during primary voting have worked in the past. I think we could have applied a LOT more pressure earlier in the process and might have had a better outcome. Now instead we have the worst possible result for the people of Palestine.

          • @Keeponstalin
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            They did apply a lot of pressure during the primary. The total uncommitted in the Primary was 706,591 (Which may have been undercounted) which is absolutely massive for a primary. On average, general turnout is twice that of primary turnout. The Democratic Party knew that at they were risking at least 1.4 million votes by ignoring the issue. Here Are 34 Polls That Show A Ceasefire & Weapons Embargo Help Kamala Win. They also knew throughout the whole campaign that a vast majority of their constituents wanted weapons embargo and permanent ceasefire (required by domestic and international law), plus a majority of independents and Republicans. There was no valid reason for the Democratic Party to ignore the demands of that many voters, especially if trying to win an election

          • @distantsounds
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            I wouldn’t hold my strategy at more fault that the DNC and it’s strategists. They’re the ones with a billion dollars at their disposal and it’s kind of their job to appeal to voters. People have needs and cutting off billions in “genocide-aid” seems like a no brainer. Countless opportunities to invoke the Leahy Act, win over more voters, and save some money.

            …but I’m only a constituent, what do I know

            • @atomicorange
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              118 hours ago

              You can’t control their strategy, but you can control yours.

              I think we’ve seen enough of the DNC now to know what to expect. I don’t think we can count on their promises or their logic. I’m not trying to blame you for Trump’s win, just suggesting that we work together (if we get another chance) to apply pressure at points when it will HELP. I don’t think protest voting during the last general election was the right move. Let’s learn from it instead of insisting it was the right thing to do.

      • @distantsounds
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        Correct.

        Kamala: I would do nothing different

        • @Mrkawfee
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          She wouldn’t let a Palestinian speak at the DNC and pledged to do everything in her power to suck up to Netanyahu. There is so much cope here. There is no fucking difference between Biden, Kamala and Trump. They all suck off Satanyahu. The US is controlled by the Israel lobby. Mearsheimer has been screaming about this for 20 years.

          • @[email protected]
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            Right, because Harris wanted to kick all of the Palestinians out so she could build a resort.

            At least she and Biden attempted to negotiate peace.

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              Yes Biden, and by extension Kamala “nothing different” Harris, did want to kick out the Palestinians, they just tried to do it under the table https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-egypt-trump-displacement-bc1c43f80655190824a5de4eb1d310cc

              “The diplomat said Egypt rejected similar proposals from the Biden administration and European countries early in the war, which was sparked by Hamas’ Oct. 7, 2023 attack into southern Israel. The earlier proposals were broached privately, while Trump announced his plan at a White House press conference alongside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.”

            • @Keeponstalin
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              At least she and Biden attempted to negotiate peace.

              No, they really didn’t. That was the whole problem

              The rhetoric coming out of the White House, when it has been focused on peace or restraint, rather than continuous war, has been undercut at every turn by its actions. The constant supply of weapons — $17.9 billion of bullets, bombs, shells, and other military aid in the past year — has allowed Israel to keep waging its war on Gaza, and in recent weeks, expand that war to Lebanon and threaten to escalate its conflict with Iran. Despite documentation of U.S. weapons being used in probable war crimes, and credible allegations that Israel is committing genocide in its war on Gaza, the bombs have continued to flow.

              Year of Empty Rhetoric From the White House on Israel’s Wars

              The diplomat said Egypt rejected similar proposals from the Biden administration and European countries early in the war, which was sparked by Hamas’ Oct. 7, 2023 attack into southern Israel. The earlier proposals were broached privately, while Trump announced his plan at a White House press conference alongside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

              https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-egypt-trump-displacement-bc1c43f80655190824a5de4eb1d310cc

      • @distantsounds
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        You don’t make friends with genocide 🤷‍♂️