• @saltinecrackers
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    2115 hours ago

    What’s everyone using for email in a post Google world?

    • Let's Go 2 the Mall!
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      23 hours ago

      mailbox.org has been pretty good. you can also sync contacts and calendar using DAVx5 on android. They don’t have any official apps. but thunderbird mobile works well.

    • @febra
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      69 hours ago

      Tutamail. Actually great company values. Company works more like a coop. Diversity and inclusion is part of its message. Encryption is paramount.

      • @[email protected]
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        10 hours ago

        I’ve been running my own email for 25 years and wouldn’t recommend it to anyone. 😔

        • @[email protected]
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          27 hours ago

          I always thought that I would just end up in spam or just blocked if I tried self hosting it 😅

          • @[email protected]
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            16 hours ago

            It’s a problem. I spend a few hours a year dealing with it. Luckily my ISP is opt-in on port 25 so pretty clean overall.

        • @[email protected]
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          29 hours ago

          Fair TBH. It is such a critical service to keep working.

          But it does feel pretty amazing to free yourself of the whims of a provider 😅 I assume that’s why you have not gone back either? ^^

          • @[email protected]
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            16 hours ago

            For many years it was just that I didn’t trust anyone not to hand my data over to someone else, whether that be governments, companies, or (unintentionally) hackers.

            Nowadays I would probably trust Proton Mail, since they have pretty good encryption. But as you point out then I would be dependent on a provider.

            Currently I mostly have problems when I lose power or when my ISP renumbers. Probably I should just migrate and save myself pain from Google and Microsoft making it hard to send mail to their users (which is most people on the planet).

            • @[email protected]
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              16 hours ago

              Oh shit, yes, hosting at-home and with a non-static IP sounds like hard mode, oof.

              I am hosting at a server provider (guess I am dependent on them, but at least it’s on their existence, not on a policy-of-the-day), with a static IP. Had no problems with MS/Google, only with T-online, who wanted me to host a website on the domain with clear contact information.

      • Cousin Mose
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        210 hours ago

        I want to do this. Do you know of any good VPS provider in a privacy-respecting jurisdiction that allows this?

        • @[email protected]
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          210 hours ago

          I’m using Hetzner in Germany. Need to message them to say you want the relevant ports opened (spam protection measures), happens within an hour usually.

          I quite like their service, but of course use full disk encryption etc

    • Cosmonaut_Collin
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      Proton mail is pretty good. And they have a trustworthy VPN service.

      Update: I officially rescind my statement. Do not use Proton.

      • @febra
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        59 hours ago

        Get mullvad if you want a good VPN provider. Get tutamail if you want a good email provider.

      • @Snapz
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        710 hours ago

        Fuck proton, get off proton.

        • moosetwin
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          313 hours ago

          Are there any alternatives with similar features?

          • @Little8Lost
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            311 hours ago

            Tutanota & fastmail get reccomended often lately (i still need to check them out) Posteo is good too but they have only paid options (1€+)