You’re conflating legality and morality. The fact that killing people in the way Thompson did it was not a crime is exactly the problem. We’re already in a world of lawlessness for the elites. The Thompson killing was reminding them that what goes around comes around, and frankly we need more of it until they start making actual good-faith efforts to fix the society that they broke for all of us.
We elect the Bernie’s and the AOC’s to correct the bloodthirsty capitalists, they get sidelined by the status quo and fight hard for scraps. Our popular vote gets overridden by the Electoral College. The US Supreme Court, whom we don’t elect and can’t remove for blatant corruption, take away our rights and allow corporations to be “people” (Citizens United case)…
We try to elect people who run on fixing things and enshrining into law the rights we’ve fought for. Sometimes those people get elected, switch parties and/or their votes, and fuck over the voters (look up state representative Tricia Cotham in NC for a blatant example)
Vigilantes happen when the system and rule of law fails the people instead of protecting, serving, and holding accountable.
Vigilantes are the result of a complete leval, moral, and ethical failure against society. (Look up Ken McElroy for an example that seems made up to prove a point, but isn’t)
The average person, not in politics, trying to work and live, has the power of their vote and their voice. Some want change & safety nets, some want fascism & power, some are silent - apathetic or overwhelmed. What happens when our vote and voice isn’t enough?
We see UHC deny care in a system we are paying into. What are our options? March? Write letters? Vote? How do we change the system and make a UHC cover the medical costs we need and that we are paying them to cover?
Where is the moral, ethical, legal fix for people having their quality of life trashed or losing their lives to delayed or denied treatment?
I agree that the answer should not be a vigilante. But this is an unfair world and there should not be a lot of things. Give me a solution other than “murder is bad guys, mmkay”
Should the alleged perp, should he be found guilty spend a certain amount of time in prison? Yes. And whomever did it probably knows that and is prepared.
Should the alleged shooter have terroism charges? No. Especially when people like Dylan Roof (who sat in a church service before opening fire to start a race war did not get those charges)
The system is worried right now. It’s pushed people to the breaking point. What happens next will directly affect the quality of life for hundreds of millions of people, for our children and our grandchildren.
Will the system compromise or put a boot on our necks?
The people who can actually change things have to think it’s in their best interest to do so.
And you’re conflating yourself with the law. Who decides what’s a crime? You? A vote in this discussion thread? Personally I think you’re deeply immoral in your apology of cold-blooded murder - does that mean I get to take justice into my own hands and arraign you on the street? You don’t have a leg to stand on.
Congress is supposed to decide what’s a crime. They’ve been… less than receptive to what the people need of late. This disconnect between what society considers just and what the law states is clearly demonstrated by the lack of public condemnation for Luigi - the only people you hear being upset about it are the ones who are paid to be.
You’re conflating legality and morality. The fact that killing people in the way Thompson did it was not a crime is exactly the problem. We’re already in a world of lawlessness for the elites. The Thompson killing was reminding them that what goes around comes around, and frankly we need more of it until they start making actual good-faith efforts to fix the society that they broke for all of us.
We elect the Bernie’s and the AOC’s to correct the bloodthirsty capitalists, they get sidelined by the status quo and fight hard for scraps. Our popular vote gets overridden by the Electoral College. The US Supreme Court, whom we don’t elect and can’t remove for blatant corruption, take away our rights and allow corporations to be “people” (Citizens United case)…
We try to elect people who run on fixing things and enshrining into law the rights we’ve fought for. Sometimes those people get elected, switch parties and/or their votes, and fuck over the voters (look up state representative Tricia Cotham in NC for a blatant example)
Vigilantes happen when the system and rule of law fails the people instead of protecting, serving, and holding accountable.
Vigilantes are the result of a complete leval, moral, and ethical failure against society. (Look up Ken McElroy for an example that seems made up to prove a point, but isn’t)
The average person, not in politics, trying to work and live, has the power of their vote and their voice. Some want change & safety nets, some want fascism & power, some are silent - apathetic or overwhelmed. What happens when our vote and voice isn’t enough?
We see UHC deny care in a system we are paying into. What are our options? March? Write letters? Vote? How do we change the system and make a UHC cover the medical costs we need and that we are paying them to cover?
Where is the moral, ethical, legal fix for people having their quality of life trashed or losing their lives to delayed or denied treatment?
I agree that the answer should not be a vigilante. But this is an unfair world and there should not be a lot of things. Give me a solution other than “murder is bad guys, mmkay”
Should the alleged perp, should he be found guilty spend a certain amount of time in prison? Yes. And whomever did it probably knows that and is prepared.
Should the alleged shooter have terroism charges? No. Especially when people like Dylan Roof (who sat in a church service before opening fire to start a race war did not get those charges)
The system is worried right now. It’s pushed people to the breaking point. What happens next will directly affect the quality of life for hundreds of millions of people, for our children and our grandchildren.
Will the system compromise or put a boot on our necks?
The people who can actually change things have to think it’s in their best interest to do so.
And you’re conflating yourself with the law. Who decides what’s a crime? You? A vote in this discussion thread? Personally I think you’re deeply immoral in your apology of cold-blooded murder - does that mean I get to take justice into my own hands and arraign you on the street? You don’t have a leg to stand on.
Congress is supposed to decide what’s a crime. They’ve been… less than receptive to what the people need of late. This disconnect between what society considers just and what the law states is clearly demonstrated by the lack of public condemnation for Luigi - the only people you hear being upset about it are the ones who are paid to be.