• Canadian_Cabinet
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    Most of them are tankies (dumb political ideology) but most people took issue with the fact that they were the most annoying people on Lemmy. Every thread they’d be in would be a collection of the worst takes imaginable and they liked to start arguments with everyone else

    • @[email protected]
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      181 day ago

      “tankies” is not an ideology. It’s a perjorative term for anyone to the left of you.

      • @[email protected]
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        Absolutely wrong. A tankie is a fake leftist who idolizes authoritarian regimes / leaders

        • Cowbee [he/they]
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          “Tankie” is a caricature. The idea of a tankie is the ideal vision of a McCarthyian Communist. In reality, the overwhelming majority of people labeled as such don’t actually fit that label, it’s more of a way to cast an image of someone’s positions based on, say, support for AES countries, and twist that into the evil Commie Pinko that haunts the dreams of 1960s children in the US.

          So, yes, it’s a pejorative, and not one I think is aiding leftists trying to understand the views of others. More often than not it’s used as “commie” was: to shut down conversation and otherize people.

          • @[email protected]
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            If someone supports authoritarians masquerading as leftists they subscribe to tankie ideology. Sucks for them that it’s a pejorative TOO.

            If people don’t like being called it maybe they shouldn’t openly support such behavior.

            Edit it’s funny, someone calling for mutual aid driven , equity based, collectivist society would never be called a tankie. It’s other stuff that people are squirming out of the cracks to defend here. Like long running dictatorial rule, state control of information, ethnic cleansing and political prisons.

            And before I’m hit with the ml special: a lot of that shit happens in the west too, and has for years. There’s just different labels for it.

            • Cowbee [he/they]
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              114 hours ago

              What makes someone a Leftist, vs an “authoritarian masquerading as a leftist?” What is “tankie ideology?”

              • @[email protected]
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                -314 hours ago

                JAQ elsewhere. Ample resources to look up.

                My late edit had some keywords to can type in if you’re unfamiliar.

                • Cowbee [he/they]
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                  It isn’t “JAQ,” I asked a specific pair of questions because vague gesturing isn’t effective communication. For your edit, removing control from the Bourgeoisie, defending revolution, and having the Dictatorship of the Proletariat control the press is straight from Marx, so I guess you mean Marxism is “tankie ideology.” I don’t know what you mean by dictatorships, nor ethnic cleansing, this just seems to be more vague assertions.

          • @[email protected]
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            -31 day ago

            Sure like calling a Nazi a Nazi is technically pejorative. More importantly, it’s a warning identifier to others.

            • @[email protected]
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              419 hours ago

              A Nazi is a real thing, there was a Nazi party that ruled a country, and there are still people nowadays who adhere to the ideals of that party.

              There was never a “Tankie” party, it’s something that only exists in your head and has no representation in the real world.

              • @[email protected]
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                014 hours ago

                It doesn’t have to be a defined party to be an ideology. It’s pretty hilarious y’all are defending authoritarian Stans

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                It’s clearly an ideology as well, which is what I was addressing. (Ideology/idolize)

                  • @[email protected]
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                    Two things can be true. By my word choice it is clear that “absolutely not” was directed at “ideology”.

                    Edit How is it not? People believe in the actions of authoritarians larping as leftists. They further idolize their personalities.

      • Golden Lox
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        i think its more of a general term, specifically with the focus on large government oversight.

    • Draconic NEO
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      21 day ago

      Let’s also not forget their emoji spamming either. They absolutely trashed many threads on servers federated with them.