Meloni heads Italy’s most rightwing government since the second world war. Italy’s criminal code punishes with a fine ranging from €1,000 to €5,000 anyone who “publicly defames the republic”, which includes the government, parliament, the courts and the army.

  • @[email protected]
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    362 years ago

    I’ve been surprised that some western countries have laws like this. A French woman has also been fined for insulting Macron.

    • @[email protected]
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      222 years ago

      The public prosecution department in Germany let someone’s home got searched because he called a conservative politician “Du bist so 1 Pimmel” (“you are such a penis”) via Twitter.

      At the same time the public prosecution department in Germany regularly refuses to take action against hate speech when aimed against other people. Even other politicians.

      And since many people do not really understand our jurisdiction, they believe it is enough to protest against the police.

      • @Methylman
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        102 years ago

        I wonder what their response would be to a bunch of lemmings outside the reach of Germany’s laws doing the same?

    • @ikidd
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      62 years ago

      It’s almost like making laws against free speech is a slippery slope.

      • @suction
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        62 years ago

        It can be, but not all speech is free, not even in the US.

          • @[email protected]
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            22 years ago

            Nope. There’s a bunch of thoughts and speech acts that don’t contribute anything. There’s a reason the swastika and other Nazi codes/insignia are outlawed in Germany. “We just need to exterminate the Jews for a better life for everyone else” is similarly outlawed under an incitement to genocide clause.

            There are very good reasons to put barriers on absolutely free speech.

            • @problematicPanther
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              52 years ago

              What i meant was actually, fighting words are not protected under free speech in the USA. Not disagreeing, just making a funny.

              • @suction
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                32 years ago

                Not just that, slander, defamation, hate speech, harassment can all be speech yet you can get sued and will have to pay for that sort of speech. Actually the US is basically the same as most other western countries, the „only the US allows free speech“-simpletons couldn’t be further off.

    • @nefonous
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      22 years ago

      To be exact, there is a difference between insult and defamation

      I’m not too sure about the technicalities either, so I’m not sure if insulting is also a problem.

      But declamation requires saying something false to ruin the other person’s reputation, and it’s actually a crime even against normal people

      • @wazoobonkerbrain
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        12 years ago

        declamation requires saying something false to ruin the other person’s reputation

        *defamation

        Declamation is a form of rhetoric.

        • @nefonous
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          12 years ago

          Thank you, I didn’t notice the typo!