• @sumguyonline
    link
    -210 days ago

    Here’s where that gets dirty: Does JimBobby that can’t hold down a job because he is 1: lazy and 2: an alcoholic, deserve a job where he isn’t going to work when he does show up? If enough people do that the system collapses because we are required to work to keep the system going. NOW! Contrary to popular beliefs the entire class of poor people are not JimBobby’s, they are hard working, reliable, and will put in a good days work. So a system where the gains of our efforts, the fruits of our labors, the returns on the investments we create with our labor isn’t untenable. HOWEVER, the 1% are waiting in the shadows with legions of JimBobby’s to release onto every news channel talking “I ain’t never gonna put in a hard days work, society does it for me…” So a system that incorporates slackers as a known condition for a small portion of the population, just the same as gold hording dragons seems to be a stage of existence for a small portion of the population. Then we might be able to wrangle a new type of social system that incorporates fixes for the failures we will definitely encounter that leads back to this Oligarchy bullshit. On a side note: To be clear, when I say the 1%, I don’t mean in your neighborhood, we celebrate when our own does well. I don’t necessarily mean in your city, a rising tide floats all boats even in a big city. I mean the people that statistically are in the top 1% for the entire planet for assets, not just liquid cash. All assets. Your uncle that worked for a good union and retired with almost a million in their retirement fund, even tho oddly voting for Donald Trump despite a union providing his good pay, isn’t even close to being in the top 1%, globally speaking probably not even in the top 50% even with all that insane poverty out there. The 1% have more money than anyone anywhere, they are a problem that requires a fix, it will not fix itself.

    • @Broadfern
      link
      English
      7
      edit-2
      9 days ago

      You’re right - it’s the same bullshit as the argument against welfare, food stamps, disability or any other social safety net: “BuT sOmEoNe WiLl AbUsE iT!!1!”

      So? I’d rather have two people “fake” needing help so the other two thousand can get access to the care they need. I’d rather my taxes and labor feed EVERYBODY, than starve so many to spite a fucking strawman.

      The anti-social selfish fuckery of sociopath billionaires and those who aspire to be like them piss me off to no end. If everyone shares abundance, nobody goes without, and things don’t need to be jealously protected when douchebags aren’t hoarding resources. One person “mooching” and spending their money back into society is waaay different than siphoning.

    • @shalafi
      link
      English
      110 days ago

      Right with ya! (But break thoughts into paragraphs to ease digestion.)

      I’d argue this though, you’re way off comparing against the entire world.

      Just took a shit-paying job. My wife and I put together are in the top 4% worldwide at $70,000.

      When I was working my last IT job, we were in the 1.4% at a total income of $115,000.

      https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/how-rich-am-i

      Did I miss your point somehow?