Yes to wicked bastards going to heaven, as long as it is true repentance. God knows the heart, and just saying the right words isn’t going to cut it.
Being taught the Bible is a requirement, but only so that you can understand enough to believe. You don’t need to be a scholar by any means.
Dying as a child is a more debated point. Some say there is a period of innocence before which God does not send you to hell (generally seen as children who don’t yet understand right from wrong). Others say that this is just wishful thinking. Regardless, it isn’t discussed explicitly in the Bible and there are verses that are ambiguous enough to be read either way. For my part, I think that there’s no way to be sure until we die and find out, and it doesn’t affect any of my other beliefs, so I don’t think it matters which one you choose to believe.
Thanks for the thorough answer. I especially appreciate hearing the last part because that’s the issue that pushed me out of the church. I had a 2-month conversation with my CCD teacher (stayed after once a week to talk) and he was dead set on two things:
kids who haven’t been introduced to Christianity go to purgatory forever
What Dreams May Come is an inaccurate portrayal of purgatory (despite it not being described in the Bible. His reasoning was basically “because I said so”)
I couldn’t handle those answers and the church backed him up. I wonder if I’d still be a follower if I hadn’t been given such a hardline answer…
Happy to help. Of course, purgatory in general is a whole different discussion, but I’m sorry to hear that you got pushed away by his stubbornness. It is good to keep learning though, so A+ for you :)
I may not be the devout churchgoer I was as a kid but I do “get it.” If you see my name elsewhere on Lemmy, it might even be in the context of defending Christianity. And I’m legitimately angry at the people who have coopted and twisted it for greed.
This is gonna sound trite but I think it’s important to understand people who think differently than you…especially nowadays when everyone is so focused on what makes us different. Not just what they think but why they think it.
And now I think I understand Legalism in the context of Christianity so thank you again for that!
Yes to wicked bastards going to heaven, as long as it is true repentance. God knows the heart, and just saying the right words isn’t going to cut it.
Being taught the Bible is a requirement, but only so that you can understand enough to believe. You don’t need to be a scholar by any means.
Dying as a child is a more debated point. Some say there is a period of innocence before which God does not send you to hell (generally seen as children who don’t yet understand right from wrong). Others say that this is just wishful thinking. Regardless, it isn’t discussed explicitly in the Bible and there are verses that are ambiguous enough to be read either way. For my part, I think that there’s no way to be sure until we die and find out, and it doesn’t affect any of my other beliefs, so I don’t think it matters which one you choose to believe.
Thanks for the thorough answer. I especially appreciate hearing the last part because that’s the issue that pushed me out of the church. I had a 2-month conversation with my CCD teacher (stayed after once a week to talk) and he was dead set on two things:
kids who haven’t been introduced to Christianity go to purgatory forever
What Dreams May Come is an inaccurate portrayal of purgatory (despite it not being described in the Bible. His reasoning was basically “because I said so”)
I couldn’t handle those answers and the church backed him up. I wonder if I’d still be a follower if I hadn’t been given such a hardline answer…
Happy to help. Of course, purgatory in general is a whole different discussion, but I’m sorry to hear that you got pushed away by his stubbornness. It is good to keep learning though, so A+ for you :)
I may not be the devout churchgoer I was as a kid but I do “get it.” If you see my name elsewhere on Lemmy, it might even be in the context of defending Christianity. And I’m legitimately angry at the people who have coopted and twisted it for greed.
This is gonna sound trite but I think it’s important to understand people who think differently than you…especially nowadays when everyone is so focused on what makes us different. Not just what they think but why they think it.
And now I think I understand Legalism in the context of Christianity so thank you again for that!