• @CeeBee_Eh
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    37 days ago

    I disagree that the growing pains are steadily going down, too. Maybe I’m just old, but to me the golden age of Linux “just working” is definitely not now.

    Well, you can disagree all you like, but it doesn’t line up with reality. Hell, I even have my parents on Linux and it’s working great for them. Since setting them up with Linux the amount of times I have to connect to their computer or even drive over there has gone down to nearly zero.

    The thing that killed Linux getting bigger then was the lack of software support.

    You actually have that backwards, but that’s neither here nor there. The reality is that Linux is more compatible than ever. Most services that anyone uses is done online in a browser. Most Steam games work out of the box, not including live-service and multiplayer games with prohibitive anticheat. Even most non-Steam games work without much fuss. Lutris makes many games a one-click installation.

    it’s complete chaos.

    Not really. It may seem that way, but it’s just the fast progress of tech. Frankly, Linux leads that progress because of its monopolistic use in servers.

    let this be a note that the handling of third party FSs

    Not going to happen, unless you want to have a chat with Microsoft.

    external mounted drives in Linux should get much better

    There’s no issues with external drives in Linux beyond the usual stuff every OS deals with.

    Steam should start giving non-SteamOS distros some love

    Steam has worked swimmingly on other distros well before SteamOS was ever a thing.

    • MudMan
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      07 days ago

      You either misread or ignored what I actually wrote, so maybe give it another look. Specifically, I said the issue with Linux in the early 2000s was lack of software support, not now.

      For the record, there is plenty wrong with the way Linux handles external drives, at least UX-wise. For one thing Dolphin mounts them differently than a mount command, which is insane. In the case of Samba shares it also mounts them in an entirely different location, which is extra insane. And the whole thing keeps a distinction between drives included as part of the system and external drives, even if the external drives are fixed, so if you want to add your extra hard drives to the navigation path for software you either have to go messing with fstab (which is both risky and terrible UX for newcomers) or manually click them every time you reboot your PC.

      By comparison on Windows any time you mount a drive it just gets a drive letter and as long as you don’t remove it it stays there. Samba shares, optical media, USB drives, hard drives… doesn’t matter, mount it as a drive, assign it a letter, navigate to it consistently for the foreseeable future. It’s just better.

      Oh, and when digging for solutions to my issues I found some of the same problems I’m encountering reported as bugs in threads from 2020, with the same workarounds being suggested in threads all the way from then to now. So your definition of “swimmingly” may not be the same as mine.

      And you’re wrong about Linux being less of a hassle now, too, anecdotes aside. Although I’m not surprised, given that your parents probably aren’t trying to game on a modern HDR monitor. “Everything works on a browser” isn’t a good argument for Linux. It’s a good argument for getting your parents a tablet and calling it a day (which, incidentally, is what I did with mine and I haven’t had to troubleshoot it, either; Chrome is Chrome).