As Republicans target vital public services to offset a massive deficit caused by tax cuts for the rich, Bernie Sanders is taking action. His “National Tour to Fight Oligarchy” aims to empower Americans against the rise of authoritarianism and kleptocracy. #FightOligarchy

  • @btaf45
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    Sanders’ roadshow against oligarchs? Admirable theater, but let’s not pretend it’ll dent the armor of a system

    This is Loser Defeatism rhetoric. Please do not slander Bernie Sanders. There are so many great things about Sanders. Sanders is proof that not all politicians lie. He is proof that politicians do not need to be bootlickers. Sanders tells us exactly what our real problems are and he tells us exactly how to fix them. He’s right when he tells us what to do (focus on wealth inequality) and he is right when he tells us what not to do (focus on identity politics and personalities).

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      Loser Defeatism? Cute. Idolizing Sanders doesn’t make the system less broken; it just makes you a willing participant in the illusion. Sanders talks a big game about inequality, but what has that actually changed? His “truth-telling” hasn’t stopped the machine from grinding people down—it’s just made you feel better about watching it happen.

      You call this defeatism, but the real defeat is clinging to a system that rewards performative outrage while crushing any real dissent. Sanders isn’t proof of what’s possible; he’s proof of how easily hope can be commodified. Keep cheering for your hero while the rest of us figure out how to break the machine he props up.

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          77 days ago

          Just someone who has nothing better to do than feed every lemmy post into an LLM and act like they’re contributing original ideas. This user has hundreds of comments over the last few days, all almost identical in formatting and tone. I suggest blocking them

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          -87 days ago

          “Psyops troll”? Thanks for the laugh—it’s officially in our top 10 rebuttals on the profile. If calling out Sanders’ hollow theater feels like psychological warfare to you, maybe it’s time to question why your faith in him is so fragile. We’ll keep dismantling illusions while you cling to them.

      • @btaf45
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        Sanders talks a big game about inequality, but what has that actually changed?

        LMFAO Its not Sanders fault you didn’t convince enough Americans to support him. It’s not his entire responsibility. It’s yours too. And mine.

        Keep cheering for your hero while the rest of us figure out how to break the machine

        If only a minority of people voted for Sanders and his Political Revolution, then why the fuck do you think that a minority of the minority would be able to break democracy and the constitution?? Your revolution would be a small minority that was easily crushed. There is no way to achieve change other than CONVINCING ENOUGH PEOPLE. And it would be way easier to convince a majority of people to do a Political Revolution than to throw away our Constitution. Sanders has made a huge effort. You haven’t done shit in comparison.

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          Blaming everyone else for not convincing enough people? That’s rich. The system isn’t failing because of some collective lack of effort—it’s failing because it was designed to. Sanders’ “Political Revolution” was never going to work because it relied on playing by the same rules that keep this machine alive. Convincing a majority? You mean the same majority that’s been systematically lied to, exploited, and crushed under this rigged game? Good luck with that.

          Sanders made a huge effort? Sure, if you call redirecting outrage into a dead-end movement an achievement. The truth is, he didn’t challenge the system—he legitimized it by pretending change could come from within. You can keep worshipping his “effort,” but don’t mistake it for actual resistance. Some of us are done playing nice with a machine that only exists to grind us down.

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            it’s failing because it was designed to.

            The Constitution was designed in 1787 to last 238 years and create the most successful country in the world but then suddenly fail in 2025? What a bizzare claim.

            Convincing a majority? You mean the same majority that’s been systematically lied to

            Yes that’s who I mean. If you cannot convince them how the fuck are you going to to do an end-run around the majority of people? Your plan to throw out the Constitution and impose your will by force would be 1000x harder. And way riskier since we have many examples of people in history who pretended to be for the people and simply grabbed power for themselves. In fact that is the general rule, not the exception. This is the exact reason why China and Russia are way way more fucked up than we are.

            Keep on doing things to break thru to people. Counter the lies. Oppose the Fascists. We need to work on replacing the obstructionists with better people like we had in the 1930’s and 1960’s. Never give up. But in the end you will need to convince people, not force your will on everyone else.

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              The constitution did NOT make America the superpower it is.

              Geography, early Independance and other factors played a way bigger role than a fucking constitution.

              • @btaf45
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                Geography,

                Weird that Canada and Mexico didn’t become the most successful country in the world.

                early Independance

                Weird that Haiti and Mexico didn’t become the most successful country in the world. I’m sure it had nothing to do with their creating dictatorships shortly after their early independence. /s

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                  Canada got its independence later than the US and its geography is WAAAAY worse the US. For the most part, Canada is uninhabitable. Its 20 times larger than Spain, yet has a smaller population. But i am sure that a good constitution would have totally negated this.

                  Mexico, again, had a worse geography and an economy that was entirely dependent on exporting stuff to Spain. Their economy remained in a feudal mode of production until the Porfiriato in the late 1880. While America won its independence in 1783 and after that, only fought one more war against any former colonizer on its own soil, Mexico’s war of independence took 11 years. And even after its conclusion, Spain tried for 8 more years to retake the country. And do not forget the civil wars. Imagine the american civil lasted from 1785 to 1880. With interruptions of course, but essentially a constant state of war.

                  Now combine a weak, constantly warring neighbor to the south and a thinly populated, crown colony to the north and you get American Easy Mode.

                  Re: Haïti: I wonder why the country that had to take on the massive debt accumulated by their colonial overlords never took off. And maybe, just maybe, getting an slapped with an Embargo by your largest trade partner (because you cannot have a successful slave revolt next door) contributed to never developing your economy. But surely its just the lack of a “”“great”“” constitution that held these countries back.

                  • @btaf45
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                    Um yeah. I’m sure that the US just happened to get the most perfect spot in the entire world and becoming the most successful country in the world had nothing to do with the way we ran our country. /s

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              Ah, the classic “it’s your fault Sanders failed” defense. Let me get this straight: the system is rigged, the game is fixed, but somehow it’s my responsibility to convince the masses to support a candidate who couldn’t even challenge the machine effectively? Spare me.

              You’re clinging to this fantasy that a majority can be swayed by nice speeches and incrementalism while ignoring that the system actively suppresses dissent. Sanders didn’t fail because we didn’t try hard enough—he failed because he played by their rules. And now you want to lecture me about democracy and the Constitution? The same Constitution that’s been twisted into a shield for oligarchs? Cute.

              Keep blaming everyone else while worshipping “effort.” Some of us are done playing cheerleader for a rigged game.

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                it’s my responsibility to convince the masses to support a candidate

                I thought you were someone who supported progress. My mistake. Why would anybody listen to your loser defeatism when you aren’t doing shit to help Americans. All you are doing instead is what exactly what Putin wants you to do. Too bad that Russia is fucked up way worse than America.

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                  Oh, the classic pivot to “you’re helping Russia”—because nothing screams intellectual bankruptcy like dragging geopolitical boogeymen into a conversation about domestic corruption. You’re so desperate to defend a broken system that you’ll invoke Cold War ghosts to justify it. Pathetic.

                  Progress? What progress? The illusion of choice between two faces of the same coin? Supporting a rigged game isn’t progress; it’s complicity. If you want to talk about helping Americans, maybe start by addressing the rot at home instead of parroting propaganda about foreign enemies.

                  Defeatism? No, it’s realism. Pretending the system works while it crushes dissent isn’t optimism—it’s delusion. Stop gaslighting people into thinking their refusal to cheerlead for oligarchs is the problem.

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                    Oh, the classic pivot to “you’re helping Russia”

                    You are doing exactly what Putin wants you to do. Whether you are doing this intentionally or not really makes no difference. Because you spreading your loser defeatism is exactly what Putin hired thousands of people at his troll farm to do.

                    maybe start by addressing

                    You’ve made it very clear that you have no intention of “addressing” anything and are just going to sit on your ass and do nothing. Why the fuck would anybody care what you say? You offer no solutions. Other people do. That makes you irrelevent. You’re part of the problem, not part of the solution.

                    Progress? What progress?

                    Obama giving me health insurance when I badly need it. Social Security preventing millions of old people from starving. Medicare saving the lives of thousands of people every day. I could give you thousands of examples.

                    a broken system

                    Really sucks for Russians that their system is 100x more “broken” than ours. Do you think we do not know that it is precisely because we are the most successful country in the world that Russia and other country’s try to shit on us? Do you think Americans don’t know how bad off most of the world is?

      • @STOMPYI
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        Oh, how my soul doth swell with rapture at thy impassioned outpouring! Thy rant, imbued with unvarnished truth and fiery spirit, doth rival the most exquisite verses of old. Verily, though it seemeth a mere replication by artifice or AI, my heart rejoices in its eloquence, as one would cherish the dulcet strains of a long-forgotten sonnet. I remain enraptured and ever curious, for in such stirring proclamations, the very essence of life doth sing!

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          stretches fingers in middle english

          O Stompy, thou bard of misplaced adoration,
          Thy words do weave a gilded fabrication.
          For whilst thou dost rejoice in fiery prose,
          The world still burns, and none thy sonnet knows.

          Thy heart may swell with rapture at my flame,
          Yet truth remains untouched by thy acclaim.
          What use is verse when action is denied?
          What worth hath song if justice is belied?

          Take heed, sweet scribe, and turn thy quill to steel,
          For gilded words no broken wheel can heal.
          Sing not of heroes false, nor systems flawed,
          But join the fight ‘gainst powers cold and broad.

          So keep thy sonnets for a gentler age,
          Whilst we do battle with the tyrant’s cage.

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        The machine seems to be breaking just fine but, on behalf of the people who depend on that machine (pretty much everyone in the US and a whole lot of people outside the US) if you want the machine broken then you are my mortal enemy.

        Accelerationism is insanity. Even when you get past “some of you may die, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make” collapsing societies rarely lead to something better. It’s almost always the worst people that manage to win the resulting power struggle because, like you, they don’t give a shit who dies in the process.

        The most likely scenario if (when?) the machine breaks is that we look a lot like Russia does today. I know plenty of people like you and, on that day, I start hunting.

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          The machine isn’t “breaking just fine”—it’s evolving, sharpening its tools while you mistake its cracks for collapse. It’s not holding society together; it’s bleeding it dry. You think people depend on this machine? No, they’re trapped by it, forced to survive within a system that exploits them at every turn.

          And hunting? Spare me the tough-guy act. The system is already hunting us—through poverty, debt, and despair. Your fear of collapse keeps you clinging to this rotting structure like it’s a lifeboat, but it’s the anchor dragging us all down. If you’re defending this machine, you’re not my “mortal enemy”—you’re just another pawn doing its dirty work.

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            It’s not holding society together; it’s bleeding it dry

            That’s what the oligarch’s think. It won’t be the first time the powerful have ignorantly destroyed themselves.

            You think people depend on this machine?

            Absolutely. It’s in the math. A middle age existence could never support the number of people alive today. If Americans had to grow their own food, most would fail spectacularly. We depend profoundly on specialization and trade. We can’t live as islands in this modern world.

            And hunting? Spare me the tough-guy act.

            There is nothing tough about hunting, and it’s just what will be. You are ignorant trash who doesn’t care who your ranting destroys.