You want to change the symbolic stuff, your focus as to be on workers, jobs, and the economy first. The voters at large do not give a fuck about political correctness, SJW ideology, or fascism. They do give a fuck about being able to eat and provide for their families, though, and that’s how you’ll win them back.
This isn’t just symbolic though, it is the normalization of “confederates and nazis good, gay people bad”. It is the indoctrination of children of false information and rewritten history. It is erasure. It is a form of oppression.
I agree that most Republican voters don’t care about this stuff much. They won’t care about what Trump/Musk regime does until it hurts them directly and plainly.
This issue is still worth fighting and caring about. We are many people, and we can tackle many issues simultaneously. Just because republicans in power are nazis and Republican voters have been successfully manipulated, does not mean we stop fighting. We push back on every injustice.
This isn’t just symbolic though, it is the normalization of “confederates and nazis good, gay people bad”. It is the indoctrination of children of false information and rewritten history. It is erasure. It is a form of oppression.
I get all that.
Not enough people care, and it’s because there are bigger problems affecting the majority’s lives. That’s what liberals need to focus on if they want to have a chance at reversing this. If you want a democracy, you have to worry about the issues affecting the majority at some point and right now they’re too busy figuring out how to actually live to care about trans people being mentioned on a sign.
You say that like Trump and the Republicans didn’t use culture war shit as a huge part of their platform. They’ve harped on about trans people and ““woke ideology”” significantly more than any liberal. They exploited the hell out of it, in fact. If trans people being mentioned on a sign isnt a real issue, then why can’t Republicans just leave the sign alone? Why are they trying so hard to erase trans people?
If people are worried about real issues then voting for Trump was a massive own goal. Purely from a standard of living and economic standpoint, he’s going to make lives worse for so many people that aren’t his billionaire cronies.
They broadened their coalition because they focused on the economic message. like Clinton in the 90’s. Democrats spent an entire campaign telling their voter base to be joyful about being poorer.
Purely from a standard of living and economic standpoint, he’s going to make lives worse for so many people that aren’t his billionaire cronies.
Probably, but the problem is, people just lived through four years of their lives being made substantially worse by Dems and their billionaire cronies, and when pressed, Kamala refused to own it and said publicly that there’s nothing she’d do differently. That gets you votes flipping to Republican and millions of former voters who opted not to miss a badly-needed day’s pay.
I don’t disagree about the Democrats shooting themselves in the foot by campaigning on pathetic status quo politics, but
they focused on the economic message
Come on, Trump isn’t coherent on anything, let alone complex issues like the economy. Culture wars and stoking moral panic about minority groups was the Republican platform down to a T.
I’m not calling Trump a policy wonk by any means, but apart from the Arnold Palmer incident and the 45-minute playlist thing he did with Kristi Noem (which apparently the voters found endearing, oddly enough), he and the Republicans had a more appealing message for the average voter. (Not that it takes much of a brain to say “Your life under Biden has been rotten. We’ll do better.”)
Also, we never gave a shit about civil rights. That’s why everyone quickly forgot about Obama’s promises to close Gitmo completely and now it’s expanding. Fuck everything about what voters want. Fuck everything about this country.
Y’all, it’s not 2014 anymore.
You want to change the symbolic stuff, your focus as to be on workers, jobs, and the economy first. The voters at large do not give a fuck about political correctness, SJW ideology, or fascism. They do give a fuck about being able to eat and provide for their families, though, and that’s how you’ll win them back.
This isn’t just symbolic though, it is the normalization of “confederates and nazis good, gay people bad”. It is the indoctrination of children of false information and rewritten history. It is erasure. It is a form of oppression.
I agree that most Republican voters don’t care about this stuff much. They won’t care about what Trump/Musk regime does until it hurts them directly and plainly.
This issue is still worth fighting and caring about. We are many people, and we can tackle many issues simultaneously. Just because republicans in power are nazis and Republican voters have been successfully manipulated, does not mean we stop fighting. We push back on every injustice.
I get all that.
Not enough people care, and it’s because there are bigger problems affecting the majority’s lives. That’s what liberals need to focus on if they want to have a chance at reversing this. If you want a democracy, you have to worry about the issues affecting the majority at some point and right now they’re too busy figuring out how to actually live to care about trans people being mentioned on a sign.
You say that like Trump and the Republicans didn’t use culture war shit as a huge part of their platform. They’ve harped on about trans people and ““woke ideology”” significantly more than any liberal. They exploited the hell out of it, in fact. If trans people being mentioned on a sign isnt a real issue, then why can’t Republicans just leave the sign alone? Why are they trying so hard to erase trans people?
If people are worried about real issues then voting for Trump was a massive own goal. Purely from a standard of living and economic standpoint, he’s going to make lives worse for so many people that aren’t his billionaire cronies.
They certainly did, but that’s not why they won.
They broadened their coalition because they focused on the economic message. like Clinton in the 90’s. Democrats spent an entire campaign telling their voter base to be joyful about being poorer.
Probably, but the problem is, people just lived through four years of their lives being made substantially worse by Dems and their billionaire cronies, and when pressed, Kamala refused to own it and said publicly that there’s nothing she’d do differently. That gets you votes flipping to Republican and millions of former voters who opted not to miss a badly-needed day’s pay.
I don’t disagree about the Democrats shooting themselves in the foot by campaigning on pathetic status quo politics, but
Come on, Trump isn’t coherent on anything, let alone complex issues like the economy. Culture wars and stoking moral panic about minority groups was the Republican platform down to a T.
Don’t get me wrong.
I’m not calling Trump a policy wonk by any means, but apart from the Arnold Palmer incident and the 45-minute playlist thing he did with Kristi Noem (which apparently the voters found endearing, oddly enough), he and the Republicans had a more appealing message for the average voter. (Not that it takes much of a brain to say “Your life under Biden has been rotten. We’ll do better.”)
We’re building concentration camps.
Also, we never gave a shit about civil rights. That’s why everyone quickly forgot about Obama’s promises to close Gitmo completely and now it’s expanding. Fuck everything about what voters want. Fuck everything about this country.