Following the R4L debacle “you are cancer, you are the problem, we are the thin blue line”, another maintainer steps down from the Linux Kernel

  • @proton_lynx
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    174 days ago

    I disagree. Hellwig was not contributing with the discussion. The point is that Rust is being integrated into the kernel, whether Hellwig likes it or not. It passed the point of discussing if it should happen or not. Besides that, R4L is responsible for maintaining the Rust code even if something is broken from the C side of things.

    • @ikidd
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      -34 days ago

      Neither of those sides exist in a vacuum; it’s great there’s a R4L team, but you still have to eliminate the possibility the problem exists at your end before you throw it in their lap and say “deal with it”. And I’ll bet half the time it gets tossed back with “your problem” and then the arguments ensue, not to mention the various discussions about how to make them talk to get rid of the bug. It’s not anywhere near as simple as the idea that there is a team for that.

      Sure Hellwig’s probably being an asshole here, but you can be an asshole and still be right. Linus did it for 20 years and built the most successful OS in history.

      • @proton_lynx
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        4 days ago

        Yeah, I agree with you that, realistically speaking, Rust people would probably complain when C code brakes their code, but I still think that this was not what Hellwig was talking about.

        In my opinion, he was just being unreasonable when he told people that he would be doing everything he can to prevent anything else that’s not C code from being merged into the kernel.

        I mean, I understand his concerns of not wanting to deal with Rust code, but what he said is not contributing AT ALL to the discussion.

        btw, I’m not the one downvoting your comments. I disagree with you but I think you are making some valid points.

        • @ikidd
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          14 days ago

          Fair enough, I guess I would agree with you on the value it had to that discussion. I’ve just dealt with partial codebase transitions and it’s a horror to fix anything.

          And I couldn’t give a shit about downvotes, or I’d just dogpile along with the groupthink in every thread like the rest of the Lemmings. I appreciate the discussion.