Filling it out correctly requires enough fairly high level of brain function - enough that you can get an office job at least. You might need wheelchair assistance or other accommodation.
Okay, I’m a little snarky here. But it is still a reasonable rule to work with. If the form is so easy that you can get it done correctly either they are not getting enough information out of you to get you the right help, or they are not doing much to prevent “freeloaders” (which might be a correct choice for society, but be honest if it is the choice instead of claiming freeloaders don’t exist). Most likely both at the same time.
how the hell is THAT what you take away from this post?
How do you choose to blame the people with the disability for getting help instead of the system designed to make the process of getting help as difficult as possible?
I didn’t blame them. I said it is impossible for those who need it to get help on their own, and therefore it is not their fault. The system needs to provide some way for someone to help people who need help get it because people who need it will not be able to get it on their own.
OP probably isn’t as bad as some I’ve met who cannot even open an unlocked door with a handicap button on their own. Such people exist though, and somehow the system needs to ensure those people are not lost (including finding them!). Once you have that in place you may as well use the same people who get help to need it.
Exactly. There are no easy answers. The large form exists for a reason, the system needs all the information to get you the right help. There is no way someone who needs help can figure out how to fill it out correctly on their own.
If you can successful get disability on your own you are not disabled enough to need it.
This is basically an argument they use to deny people IRL
The real question is how to we get help to the people who cannot fill that form out on their own - the ones who really need it.
Being able to fill out a form is in no way proof you’re not disabled
But yes, we should also be figuring out ways to get it to those who can’t even get that part done more easily as well
Filling it out correctly requires enough fairly high level of brain function - enough that you can get an office job at least. You might need wheelchair assistance or other accommodation.
Okay, I’m a little snarky here. But it is still a reasonable rule to work with. If the form is so easy that you can get it done correctly either they are not getting enough information out of you to get you the right help, or they are not doing much to prevent “freeloaders” (which might be a correct choice for society, but be honest if it is the choice instead of claiming freeloaders don’t exist). Most likely both at the same time.
I know someone with no arms that did it slowly with their feet. Think they can do an office job with just minor accomodations?
No, it is not
im glad to see some people in the world dont suffer mental health issues.
you arent one of them you unempathetic weirdo
how the hell is THAT what you take away from this post?
How do you choose to blame the people with the disability for getting help instead of the system designed to make the process of getting help as difficult as possible?
I didn’t blame them. I said it is impossible for those who need it to get help on their own, and therefore it is not their fault. The system needs to provide some way for someone to help people who need help get it because people who need it will not be able to get it on their own.
OP probably isn’t as bad as some I’ve met who cannot even open an unlocked door with a handicap button on their own. Such people exist though, and somehow the system needs to ensure those people are not lost (including finding them!). Once you have that in place you may as well use the same people who get help to need it.
OP didn’t figure it out an their own . A sign they probably need help.
but under the existing system did they get help? no, they didn’t.
Exactly. There are no easy answers. The large form exists for a reason, the system needs all the information to get you the right help. There is no way someone who needs help can figure out how to fill it out correctly on their own.
Poe’s law. You missed the implied \s.
Then they’re doing sarcasm wrong.
And asking to get out of danger is the process of a rational mind.