Title is question, but to clarify my assumptions:

  • Vaccination is a numbers game, and the odds are in your favor that the vaccination will protect you over you get a side effect or an allergic reaction/shock
  • An infection like covid/flue can damage your body long term, not even speaking of long covid etc.
  • To the best of my knowledge it has been shown that flue shoots lower the risk of dementia later in life, wouldn’t it be a good enough guess that a covid shoot decreases risks for this too
  • Even if we only assume a covid vaccination is highly to reduce your sick days for only this year, isn’t it a rationale tradeoff to get vaccinated, just to avoid 1-2 weeks sick?
  • Given the security of covid vaccinations, I feel like they have been scrutinized and tested extremely well and to the best of my knowledge it was checked that nothing of the vaccination remains in the body after a few weeks (for the argument that nobody knows the long term effects of RNA vaccination)

Again my question: Why doesn’t the WHO or don’t most countries recommend covid vaccinations for everyone? Are there any health/medical reasons? Are there financial reasons? Are there any countries/governments which recommend the covid vaccination for everyone and not only the ‘vulnerable groups’?

Edit: Just to add, I am living in Germany and right now we have a big wave of children flue, where children even die in the hospitals and the children hospitals are near their limits. It seems common sense to just put flue/covid vaccination into every child/adult, to avoid situations like this.

  • @[email protected]OP
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    13 days ago

    Thanks, one follow up question: In Germany (where I live), for flue vaccinations, it is kind of ‘free for all’, at my work place they even send doctors to vaccinate the employees (who are willing to take it).

    This is the confusing point for me, as in Denmark, covid is treated like a flue by now. So why is there the difference between the recommendation between covid shoots and flue shoots?

    • @cosmicrookie
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      13 days ago

      What type of work do you do? Do you get in contact with people who are sensitive to flue infections? Here too, you are offered a flue (and pneumonia) vaccine, if you work with people who have a higher chance of complications if they get infected.

      In general offices and industry, I guess it is an economic consideration. Pay to have your workers vaccinated, and avoid losing revenue/production due to sickness.

      • @[email protected]OP
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        23 days ago

        Nope, I am a total boring office worker and the company I work for is not related to health care.

        If there is a yearly refreshed pneumonia vaccine, I never heard about it being offered in Germany. (If it is a one time thing, I would trust everyone open to it got it already.)

        Exactly what you said is at the heart of my question: Is it an economic consideration to not recommend the covid yearly update shoot or a medical one.

        To further elaborate: The flue shoots are provided for free and paid for from the public health care, so in Germany you can just visit a regular family doctor and get it for free, or the flue shoots are given out at universities etc. In summary, while you nearly have to make an effort in Germany to not get a yearly flue shoot, for covid shoots you even have to sign a paper to the doctor to not sue them for vaccination problems, unless you are in the vulnerable group (elderly, asthma etc.).

        How does it work in Denmark, if you would ask your family doctor for a covid shoot, will they simply give you one, no questions asked?

        • @cosmicrookie
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          12 days ago

          So the pneumonia vaccine here lasts 5 years, but i have heard rumors of a new one that is a one-time only vaccine. I have not yet confirmed this though.

          In regards to vaccines here, you get both the flue and covid vaccine offered for free, if you work with people who are in a risk group (elderly or people with risk of serious complications). Otherwise you can pay for to have it. during the pandemic both were free though.

          I am sure that it is a decision that considers the cost and gains so I assume that they see fit that people just get sick, and get over it naturally. It is not life threatening any more. That said, I believe that private companies and organizations can chose to cover the cost of vaccines, in order to have less sick days among their employees.

          If there are more considerations behind this, I am not aware, and also these are just my personal guesses at this point. Covid and flue is not really any concern here any more. There are talks of a flue wave at the moment, but nothing out of the ordinary, and they have always been writing about this in the news so nothing new there

          • @[email protected]OP
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            12 days ago

            Thanks for the info concerning the pneumonia vaccine, I’ll check with my family doctor next time I am there.

            Yeah, we have the annually flu news-cycle, too. This year they claim it is worse for children, because the hospital beds for children are supposedly at their capacity, and also in my team at work nearly everyone was sick within the last 4 weeks.

            Just a heads up: I learned it is ‘flu’ for the disease and ‘flue’ is like a device to let go of smoke. Sorry for spreading my bad English!

            • @cosmicrookie
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              22 days ago

              Yeah me and you both lol! At least we both learned many things from this!