Combine this with German polls showing a drop in AfD support this month since Vance’s meeting with them (https://www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/germany/), and you have actual European Nazis looking at the Trump administration and collectively saying “whoah, maybe dial it down a bit.”
Fascism is often a pipeline. Not everyone who votes for the far right is fully on board with everything they wish to do quite yet. They’re really good at making you think that the people more than a step or two right of you aren’t that big of a deal. They see the people waving swastikas as not a big group or a particularly influential one. Similar to how the center left sees the people waving black and red flags. I’d even go so far as to say that on both sides a decent chunk of political propaganda is pointing at the other side’s cranks and far [side] members.
The difference is aside from the crux of the ideology and inherent morality contained within that, that the far right has a lot of power over the right, while the left is routinely bending over to centrists of both the left and right. However, people are idiots. If they weren’t we wouldn’t be in this mess.
In 2017 in Charlottesville North Carolina, the American fascist movement made a bad call. In an attempt to shift the overton window to their acceptance, demonstrate power, and create a unified movement they organized a rally to unite the right. Images of swastikas, fasches, and angry young men in business casual clothing carrying tiki torches and chanting antisemitic slogans alongside a dead young woman who protested against them became the image of the far right for a time. Short attention spans, a global pandemic, the economic crisis caused by that, and sustained propaganda from the right (especially regarding left wing protests against police brutality) led to people slowly stopping thinking about it.
Right now America is a bit too divided and radicalized for this to impact us. But other countries are seeing this and us torpedoing international relationships and making clearly stupid choices and they’re asking themselves if they want to be associated with people who support the politics of Adolf Hitler and don’t believe in regulating food safety.
I know Die Linke saw an uptick, but damn that’s wonderful. If the Nazi Party AfD can get down under 15% in the next week and Die Linke could get up over 10%, that would be much appreciated, Germany.
I’m not actually convinced it was Vance specifically. Their support seemed to grow a bit after the US election gave their movement a bit more legitimacy, but then started back the other way when people saw what it means in action. Vance’s visit was timed at roughly the peak, but, snark aside, it’s probably more correlation than causation.
The actions of the Trump administration as a whole are a more plausible cause of any slight erosion of support.
What’s happening in the American Reich is inspiring a very strong sense of European patriotism like I’ve never seen before among common people around me.
It’s pretty ironic, yet makes sense, that European unity could be achieved this sad way.
with his many gaffes in june and july, with his fake" paraphelias with dolphins and couches", and then theres the issue of him wearing eyeliner, and crossdress and associating with THIEL, MSM is complicit in trying to bury the last parts, and then theres the issue he may not be entirely straight much like how MSM dont report on lindseys identity.
Combine this with German polls showing a drop in AfD support this month since Vance’s meeting with them (https://www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/germany/), and you have actual European Nazis looking at the Trump administration and collectively saying “whoah, maybe dial it down a bit.”
Fascism is often a pipeline. Not everyone who votes for the far right is fully on board with everything they wish to do quite yet. They’re really good at making you think that the people more than a step or two right of you aren’t that big of a deal. They see the people waving swastikas as not a big group or a particularly influential one. Similar to how the center left sees the people waving black and red flags. I’d even go so far as to say that on both sides a decent chunk of political propaganda is pointing at the other side’s cranks and far [side] members.
The difference is aside from the crux of the ideology and inherent morality contained within that, that the far right has a lot of power over the right, while the left is routinely bending over to centrists of both the left and right. However, people are idiots. If they weren’t we wouldn’t be in this mess.
In 2017 in Charlottesville North Carolina, the American fascist movement made a bad call. In an attempt to shift the overton window to their acceptance, demonstrate power, and create a unified movement they organized a rally to unite the right. Images of swastikas, fasches, and angry young men in business casual clothing carrying tiki torches and chanting antisemitic slogans alongside a dead young woman who protested against them became the image of the far right for a time. Short attention spans, a global pandemic, the economic crisis caused by that, and sustained propaganda from the right (especially regarding left wing protests against police brutality) led to people slowly stopping thinking about it.
Right now America is a bit too divided and radicalized for this to impact us. But other countries are seeing this and us torpedoing international relationships and making clearly stupid choices and they’re asking themselves if they want to be associated with people who support the politics of Adolf Hitler and don’t believe in regulating food safety.
Fyi politico is owned by Springer who are partially responsible for the German shift to the (far) right.
“woah dial down the nazi a bit, Mr JD VANCE”- french nazis
Funny enough, Trump’s remarks about Canada are hurting their conservative party as well. I just hope it’s enough, y’all better get out and vote
America finally making good on its goal of spreading democracy around the world.
yea Polliviere was trying to suck trumps knob despite trump wanting to enact tariffs on canada.
2nazi4me
I hadn’t seen that latest wave of polls.
I know Die Linke saw an uptick, but damn that’s wonderful. If the
Nazi PartyAfD can get down under 15% in the next week and Die Linke could get up over 10%, that would be much appreciated, Germany.Elections are tomorrow, not next weekend.
Unless you’re talking to an Afd voter , then they’re next week ;)
I’ve heard this several times… what specifically did Vance do that seemed to shake Afd support?
I’m not actually convinced it was Vance specifically. Their support seemed to grow a bit after the US election gave their movement a bit more legitimacy, but then started back the other way when people saw what it means in action. Vance’s visit was timed at roughly the peak, but, snark aside, it’s probably more correlation than causation.
The actions of the Trump administration as a whole are a more plausible cause of any slight erosion of support.
What’s happening in the American Reich is inspiring a very strong sense of European patriotism like I’ve never seen before among common people around me.
It’s pretty ironic, yet makes sense, that European unity could be achieved this sad way.
It is very sad. But I think Europe is really going to have to unify even more as America turns somehow to both isolationism and imperialism.
He’s also pretty unlikable.
with his many gaffes in june and july, with his fake" paraphelias with dolphins and couches", and then theres the issue of him wearing eyeliner, and crossdress and associating with THIEL, MSM is complicit in trying to bury the last parts, and then theres the issue he may not be entirely straight much like how MSM dont report on lindseys identity.