cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/26284554
By Syma Mohammed
Published date: 20 February 2025 21:44 GMTAlex Tyrrell, party leader of the Green Party of Quebec, who accompanied Engler to the police station on Thursday, spoke to the Middle East Eye about Engler’s arrest.
“I think it’s a shocking attack on free expression and democratic rights and criticism of Israel in Canada - a country that’s supposed to be a free, democratic society. We’re supposed to speak out about a genocide," Tyrrel told MEE.
It’s not a hypothetical, but it’s also not responding to the specific premise of Popper’s paradox.
You’re basically doing the equivalent of saying “Some people get falsely accused of murder, therefore we should make murder legal.”
People protesting against the government are not enaging in intolerant speech. It’s that’s simple. There’s a clear cut rule that Popper lays out. You can say “Oh, but what if we decide to not follow that rule?” but then you’ve completely rejected the premise. That’s no more useful than it is to suggest that democracy is bad because democracies sometimes become dictatorships. If your argument “X is bad if you do it badly” then you’re always going to be right, but not in a way that’s useful.
There’s a huge difference. When there’s a body it’s obvious someone died. When someone gets offended, no crime was committed. But almost the same thing that is only offensive to people could cross the line into harassment.
Except you’ll notice that I never said a word about “harassment” or things being “offensive”. Throughout this discussion I have only ever advocated for the ability to restrict speech that is “intolerant.” Not offensive. Not harassing.
Intolerance is not about what offends others. You can be as offended as you like by the phrase “Isreal should not commit genocide,” but it is not intolerant, because intolerant speech is only that which seeks to attack, constrain or eliminate tolerance itself.
A tolerant society is one in which all tolerant people can exist freely and without oppression. The intolerant are those that would seek to exclude tolerant people from the protections of that society. It is paradoxical to extend tolerance to those who seek to destroy tolerance.
Doesn’t change anything. From one perspective no crime was committed because nobody was being intolerant, but from another perspective someone was.
You can apply it to many statements, like “There should be no state in the Middle East for Jews”
That could be intolerant or maybe not.