• Fitik
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    How a 30k donation to a murderer counts as “uplifting news”? If anything it’s depressing

    • @No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston
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      Innocent until proven guilty.

      Before we engage in name calling for this suspect, know that yesterday was blatantly clear the system is stacked against him to the point where the courts did not Los him to go into PA for another legal procedure.

      See the thing here is that they were giving evidence even to MAX for the documentary and not his legal team, who correctly called some of the evidence inadmissible in court.

      So before you feel like calling him a murderer see. The facts and wait for the events to unfold.

      • @finitebanjo
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        I mean, it would be more typical to only be charged in either state or federal for crimes like trespassing, but it’s also not unheard of for murder cases. For example, Michael White had charges in the state of West Virginia and was also sentenced for a murder in Federal court.

        • @[email protected]
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          Just gonna gloss over politicians preening for HBO while denying the defense discovery material? It’s obvious they’re trying to railroad the guy before anyone else gets any ideas.

          Mincing about “well ackshually it’s technically not unheard of” is dumb and hardly the point anyone was making.

    • @surewhynotlem
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      You have evidence he murdered someone? Why haven’t you told anyone?!

    • @[email protected]
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      That’s 30 grand to someone who was accused of murder who should be entitled to the best possible defense for such a serious accusation in such a hot political climate.

      Under our current legal system, that means they are in severe need of funding to help ensure that the result is fair and just.

      • @finitebanjo
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        So you agree it’s not uplifting, it’s sad.

      • xigoi
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        What are people calling him a hero for then?

        • Tanis Nikana
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          He did a chore that needed doing and we’re all proud of him, that’s what.

    • snooggums
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      The donation doesn’t go to a CEO who has murdered hundreds, possibly thousands of people.

      It is going to someone who acted in defense of others. Or who might not be the person who even did that, which is why he deserves a fair trial.

      • @finitebanjo
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        Funny, if that hypothetical murderer really died wouldn’t that mean the “killings” would have stopped? Looks like nothing has changed.

        • @[email protected]
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          So if someone else goes out and shoots the new CEO that would make arresting Luigi pointless? "Looks like nothing changed, another CEO got shot anyway.’

    • @grue
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      Why are you lying? Nobody’s been convicted of murder.

      • @[email protected]
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        They’ve already decided to play judge and jury, and I suspect would enjoy playing executioner.

          • drthunder
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            Lots of people enjoy probably-Luigi playing executioner too. When you kill people for profit and you’re otherwise untouchable, people are gonna figure out how to get back at you.

            • @finitebanjo
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              I don’t think Luigi made a profit off the murder, the $20,000 cash was probably his own to live off while on the run.

    • @[email protected]
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      this is like saying donating to a guy who killed someone actively killing others is never uplifting news. Sure leave the school shooters alone

      • @finitebanjo
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        If that man was really responsible for those deaths then the killing would have stopped.

        The blood is on the hands of voters.

        • @[email protected]
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          If that man was really responsible for those deaths then the killing would have stopped.

          If Luigi was really responsible for killing that guy in New York then arresting him would have caused the killings in New York to stop. The fact that people have been killed in New York since Luigi was arrested proves his arrest was pointless.

        • @[email protected]
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          as CEO, even if you arent the one who made the executive decision to make the denials, they still have the power to change the internal policy. It’s a FAR well known issue that UHC denied a lot of coverage. He was outright complicit with it, and unlike most people, actually had the power to overturn the problem.

          • @finitebanjo
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            Then we should be trying to solve that problem instead of throwing money at a rich kid murderer.

    • @[email protected]
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      They’re saying that they find due process to be lacking and the prosecution to be political.
      Do you think it’s depressing that someone would donate money to the defense of someone they think is being inappropriately prosecuted?
      If you think they’re guilty, you should still want them to get the best defense possible, so that when they’re found guilty it’s airtight. Our justice system is based on an adversarial model. If the prosecution, with the resources of the state, can’t successfully argue that they did it and that their arrest and all procedures were properly followed, do you really want that to still mean someone faces the death penalty?

      • @finitebanjo
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        Luigi has tons of money, though. He doesn’t need your money, and even if he did your money still isn’t helping anybody.

        • @[email protected]
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          What does that have to do with anything?

          Someone with resources gave money to aid the defense of someone they think is being treated unjustly after watching and seeing what they thought was mistreatment.

          Are you just trying to aggravate people, or do you actually have a point?

          • @finitebanjo
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            My point is your money matters andit can do so much good.

            And this isn’t it.

            • @[email protected]
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              Do you think I made this donation?

              I replied to someone saying it was sad someone gave money to a murderer.
              I don’t think it’s sad someone gave money to help someone they think might not be a murderer, and even if you think they are one, it’s not sad someone had the impulse to help push back against what they saw as a biased application of the Justice system.

              I understand you think that’s misguided in this case. Do you understand how that’s kind of a nonsequitur?

    • @finitebanjo
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      Yeah TBH I dislike Luigi a little bit more every time I see his face.

      People are actually worshiping this guy for some reason.

        • @finitebanjo
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          The animalistic “unga bunga club problems to death” part of their brain combined with anarchist and tankie propaganda campaigns promoting insurgency and chaos, as well as just a general lack of understanding of why things are the way they are.

          • @[email protected]
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            as well as just a general lack of understanding of why things are the way they are.

            Then enlighten us and bring us out of our darkness.

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              I’m just going to stick to the most recent contributing events

              In 2009-2011 the US Senate had 58 DNC seats and 2 caucusing IND seats totaling filibuster-proof 60 votes needed to pass reforms for 72 workings days, and they attempted to pass a method of funding treatment for people who could not afford it, sometimes referred to as singlepayer or public option healthcare. Due to one of the caucusing IND votes not voting with the DNC, and every single Republican voting Nay, it did not pass.

              We gave them less seats in the next two elections. Every single year since 2015 we’ve given that party who wanted healthcare reform less than 50 senate seats.

              We’ve created the system that Brian Thompson profited off of, and when we killed him all we did was free up a spot for yet another out of tens of millions of terrible people to hop into and do exactly the same thing, as has always been done since health insurance was conceived and always will do because we refuse to change it. No matter how many more people die, no matter how much blood is on our hands.

              And because people don’t understand that they think the resistance is people like Luigi, who accomplish nothing, instead of the obvious solution right in front of us.

              • @[email protected]
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                instead of the obvious solution right in front of us.

                Sorry, what is that obvious solution?

                If it’s voting I’ll remind you that in the last election one of the candidates directly stated they were going to be a dictator and less than a third of Americans voted against them. A third gleefully voted for the dictator, and a third didn’t bother to vote at all. What is this “obvious solution” that convinces 200 million people to vote the way you want them to?

                • @finitebanjo
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                  Instead of giving your money to Luigi, give it to the DNC and to Bernie Sanders. Or better yet, use that money yourself and volunteer to help the parties who support the real solution.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    So the DNC and Bernie Sanders were just $30 000 and 1 volunteer short of convincing 200 million people to vote Democrat?

      • @[email protected]
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        3510 hours ago

        It’s uplifting news and has nothing to do with politics. Perhaps Reddit is a better place for you

        • @finitebanjo
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          I agree it isn’t political but it’s definitely not uplifting, unless you’re some kind of murder cultist.

          • @[email protected]
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            You forgot the “victim” denies medical claims for a living, bankrupting people. If you think he’s the victim, you’re the problem.

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              That “victim” worked at a “company” which still denies medical claims for a living, paying for the majority of claim holders medical via distribution of wealth.

              The “reason” this is allowed is because “voters” keep choosing this system, and most recently voted to expand it by removing socialized healthcare for an addition 79 Million Americans.

              And Luigi has done fuck all to even toss a wrench in.

              • @[email protected]
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                to add in the callousness, even his boss WITTY, and hemsely isnt to bothered by the news.

              • @[email protected]
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                Lfmao. He was the one who made those calls. Now the next CEO needs a visit by Mario.

                I think you’ll find your opinion on this matter in the minority on Lemmy, but keep on blaming the “company” who aren’t run by “people” apparently.

                • @finitebanjo
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                  You will never kill all the evil people in this world as long as people exist. There will always at least be you.

      • @[email protected]
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        I think you’ll find across the spectrum, people are frustrated to the point where it’s not a political issue

      • @TheTetrapod
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        Everything is political. The sooner you get over this “I’m tired of politics, let me enjoy my doomscrolling” attitude, the more respectable you’ll be.

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          No it isn’t. This is how subs like r/technology got ruined, the whole thing got filled with “political post that involves technology” instead of just “technology”.

          • @Sonicdemon86
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            Everything is politically when you have people at the top wanting to take away your rights and be able to have their followers kill you in the streets.

      • @glimse
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        Healthcare is only political to 1/3 of the country. Everyone else sees it for what it is: a human right

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          Funny, looks like 2/3 who think it’s some kind of human right keep voting for people to not have those rights.

      • Fitik
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        Yeah, because there’s surely not enough political communities on there already