Jenin mayor says forces duplicating their offensive on Gaza, warns his city will be abandoned; Tulkarm mayor says Israel changing refugee camps' demographics
There’s a broader context (I actually thought about providing some of Ben-Gurion’s quotes explicitly approving of ethnic cleansing, just to provide a bitter reminder of the context, but decided it was a distraction), sure. My point was focused purely on the idea that if we’re going to look to assign “questionable ness” to any actions, we need to start with who is the injured party, not just treat it as a neutral situation. Ben-Gurion’s hope that things would die down with the generations wasn’t the way it worked out, and the calculus of blame he laid out honestly hasn’t changed.
What exactly is dishonest about that? It’s incomplete about one aspect, because it wasn’t a history lesson, just some words that I felt applied to the present day.
You weren’t, yet at the same time he conflated Palestinians with Arabs in general…
Far more Zionist leaders, since it’s founding in the late 1880s, have discussed the ethnic cleansing of the native Palestinian population, and were doing so during the British Occupation up til the Nakba and to present day
Why are you accusing me of being dishonest?
There’s a broader context (I actually thought about providing some of Ben-Gurion’s quotes explicitly approving of ethnic cleansing, just to provide a bitter reminder of the context, but decided it was a distraction), sure. My point was focused purely on the idea that if we’re going to look to assign “questionable ness” to any actions, we need to start with who is the injured party, not just treat it as a neutral situation. Ben-Gurion’s hope that things would die down with the generations wasn’t the way it worked out, and the calculus of blame he laid out honestly hasn’t changed.
What exactly is dishonest about that? It’s incomplete about one aspect, because it wasn’t a history lesson, just some words that I felt applied to the present day.
You weren’t, yet at the same time he conflated Palestinians with Arabs in general…
Far more Zionist leaders, since it’s founding in the late 1880s, have discussed the ethnic cleansing of the native Palestinian population, and were doing so during the British Occupation up til the Nakba and to present day