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So how come the Democrats don’t create that sort of “obstruction” for the GOP?
Democrats aren’t saints, theyre imperfect allies at best But there’s a fundamental difference in approach. ds generally try to govern and pass legislation, while McConnell openly declared his primary goal was blocking Obama’s agenda. When Ds obstruct, it’s usually on specific harmful policies, not a total blanket refusal to let the other side accomplish anything. There’s a difference between principled opposition and sabotaging government function.
Seems like a better Dem presidential campaign should have fixed that. Seems like they may have failed you a bit in that respect.
Oh look, now you’re blaming Democrats for Republican destruction. Classic abuser logic: “Why did you make me hurt you?”
I’m not a fucking political strategist with a degree in political science. I don’t give a fuck. I like him. I like what he’s doing. And enough other people do, that they voted for him. Maybe take that into consideration
Finally some honesty! “I don’t give a fuck about policy” - we’ve reached the core of MAGA politics. You “like what he’s doing” but can’t defend any of it on substance. Pure emotion and tribalism.
Says the guy who wants to turn a conservative community into a meme community and make fun of Republicans.
Everyone needs spaces to vent and joke. Conservatives have entire media empires dedicated to spreading their misinformation and conspiracy theories. Fox News, OAN, countless Facebook groups and Telegram channels, even Lemmy instances, yet you’re mad about some memes on Lemmy who hasn’t even broken 50k MAUs?
I’ve seen some democrat strategists stay that the Dem downfall started by not taking republican voters seriously, and indeed mocking them, as a strong root cause of why you lost.
The idea that Democrats lost because we weren’t nice enough to people actively supporting policies that harm vulnerable communities is laughable. “I voted to take away healthcare from millions because someone was mean to me online” isn’t the flex you think it is.
IN fact, I am exactly one of those who went by their gut, voted for Trump with glee just got get back and you all for mocking republicans.
So you’re admitting you voted to hurt people out of spite? And somehow we’re the bad guys for making memes?
I’m not even a fucking republican. I’m an anarchist.
No actual anarchist would support the most authoritarian president in modern history. You’re not an anarchist; you’re just angry and nihilistic.
You all deserve Trump.
And there it is. The mask comes off. This was never about policy or principles. It’s about hurting people you don’t like. Thanks for finally being honest about it.
Finally some honesty! “I don’t give a fuck about policy” - we’ve reached the core of MAGA politics.
so you think every fucking democrat on Lemmy is some political Philosophy input and is as fucking nerdy about politics as you are? Get the fuck outta here with that.
Again, a perfect example of why you all lost. You insist that everyone has to be at your level of intelligence or they are not worth anything.
Keep it up. You’ll lose the next election too. And I’ll laugh again.
You’re not an anarchist; you’re just angry and nihilistic.
I’m not angry at all. I’m having a fucking great time. You are angry. I’m not. At all.
And there it is. The mask comes off. It’s about hurting people you don’t like.
Guess Lemmy shouldn’t be so quick to do jerky things like turn conservative communities into meme communites that make fun of conservatives.
How that work out in the last election?
I never wore a mask. I have no desire to hurt people. But I do love how shocked you all were that your holier-than-thou attitude didn’t win any elections.
And here’s the thing. I think you actually know a lot of it was how democrat attitudes are percieved. Like you said, elections are won just by policy. It’s people skills.
Maybe all the fed people laid off can “learn to code.” You all will totally help them out! No worries.
You fucking laugh and mock people who aren’t in your little bubble. Now you can handle what the results of that is.
Rather than just wait/ask that a good conservative mod comes, you decide to mock conservatives. Just like what you are doing with this community.
I promise you this: Whether I am on Lemmy or not, banned or not, I will never ever ever EVER vote for a Democrat. Because of what I have seen on here. I would rather watch the world burn down and start from sticks and stones.
You specifically mock and make fun of people who aren’t in your little circle. And take glee in the mocking.
YOU, yes, YOU deserve Trump. And I will fucking laugh about it every single day until Trump leaves office.
Nah, I’m not mad. I’m laughing and I feel like it’s totally just that you all got your asses handed to you.
so you think every fucking democrat on Lemmy is some political Philosophy input and is as fucking nerdy about politics as you are?
No, but most people who vote care about at least some policies that affect their lives. You’ve spent this entire conversation dodging every policy point while openly declaring vote purely based on spite. Huge difference.
You insist that everyone has to be at your level of intelligence or they are not worth anything.
Never said that. I said policy matters more than tribal politics. You’re the one who keeps bringing up intelligence, which is telling. Nobody said you need a PHD level understanding of politics, just reading up on the policies themselves should not be that huge of an ask.
I’m not angry at all. I’m having a fucking great time.
Your all-caps rants, excessive swearing, and “I will never ever ever EVER vote for a Democrat” suggest otherwise. People having a great time don’t usually type like they’re screaming or have to constantly say “I’m not mad” who are you trying to convince?
Guess Lemmy shouldn’t be so quick to do jerky things like turn conservative communities into meme communites that make fun of conservatives.
You’re still hung up on a meme community while openly supporting politicians who are actively stripping rights from marginalized people. One of these things is not like the other.
Rather than just wait/ask that a good conservative mod comes, you decide to mock conservatives.
There’s a difference between mocking harmful ideas and mocking people. Conservative policies have real, harmful impacts on vulnerable communities. That deserves criticism, and memes are a form of criticism.
I would rather watch the world burn down and start from sticks and stones.
And there it is again. You claim you “have no desire to hurt people” then immediately say you’d rather see the world burn than vote for someone who might help others. The contradiction is stunning.
Your all-caps rants, excessive swearing, and “I will never ever ever EVER vote for a Democrat” suggest otherwise.
Nope. lol
You’re still hung up on a meme community while openly supporting politicians who are actively stripping rights from marginalized people.
Not hung up on it all. It’s just that it shows how much you aren’t to be taken seriously–you are just anti-republican, regardless of policy. You don’t take me seriously and I certainly don’t take you seriously.
There’s a difference between mocking harmful ideas and mocking people.
And you actually mock people.
Conservative policies have real, harmful impacts on vulnerable communities.
In your opinion. But you didn’t win the election, so not everyone agrees with you.
There was a criticism of your actions not fitting the spirit of the community by you wanting to take it over. And you replied that there was no Lemmy rule that you had to follow the spirit of a community that you took over.
Which means that you have no intention on letting conservative voices be heard.
So following your logic, there is no Lemmy rule that I have to defend every news article I post. I post links to news articles. Nothing makes you click on them. I have every right to do it and I will continue to do it.
You lost. That’s it. Lemmy’s opinion isn’t shared by the majority of the public.
You keep posting jokes, and I’ll keep posting articles. Let’s see which party wins the next election.
Not hung up on it all. It’s just that it shows how much you aren’t to be taken seriously–you are just anti-republican, regardless of policy.
I’ve repeatedly tried to discuss specific policies throughout this entire conversation. You’re the one who admitted “I don’t give a fuck” about policy and just “like Trump.” The projection is astounding.
And you actually mock people.
Says the person who’s spent this entire thread mocking “Lemmy jerks” and celebrating others’ suffering.
In your opinion. But you didn’t win the election, so not everyone agrees with you.
Electoral victory doesn’t determine objective reality. Policies that remove healthcare, cut food assistance, and target marginalized groups cause measurable harm regardless of how many people voted for them. That’s not opinion its documented fact.
Which means that you have no intention on letting conservative voices be heard.
Conservative voices are heard everywhere Faux News, OAN, Congress, the White House, the Supreme Court, Truth Social. The idea that conservatives are being silenced while controlling most levels of government is absurd victimhood.
So following your logic, there is no Lemmy rule that I have to defend every news article I post.
Post whatever you want. Just don’t be surprised when people call out misinformation or propaganda.
You lost. That’s it. Lemmy’s opinion isn’t shared by the majority of the public.
You keep coming back to “you lost” like it’s some devastating gotcha. Electoral outcomes don’t determine moral rightness. Segregation was once popular to.
You keep posting jokes, and I’ll keep posting articles. Let’s see which party wins the next election.
And there it is you’ve reduced politics to a team sport (yet again) where “winning” matters more than the actual impact on people’s lives
You said: “I will never EVER vote for a Democrat. I would rather watch the world burn” and “You deserve Trump. And I will fucking laugh about it every single day.” You’re explicitly celebrating policies that cause harm because they upset people you don’t like.
But it’s your OPINION. Some don’t agree with you and they have their own moral rightness.
No, it’s not just opinion that removing healthcare causes suffering. It’s not just opinion that cutting food assistance increases hunger. These are measurable outcomes with real human consequences. When people lose access to insulin and die, that’s not a difference of opinion, it’s preventable tragedy.
This “everything is just an opinion” stance is a way to avoid engaging with the actual human impacts of policies. It’s a cop-out that lets you ignore the consequences of what you support.
Like I said, you gone and keep posting your memes. I’ll keep posting links to news articles. And we’ll see who wins next election.
And we’re back to treating politics like a sport rather than something that determines whether people live or die. You’ve made it abundantly clear that “winning” matters more to you than the welfare of your fellow citizens.
Post whatever you want. But don’t pretend your motivation is anything other than tribal identity and spite.
“I will never EVER vote for a Democrat. I would rather watch the world burn”
That’s not “celebrating” suffering. lol
You’re explicitly celebrating policies that cause harm because they upset people you don’t like.
I, and many others, don’t think these policies cause harm. Do you think every person that voted for Trump celebrates suffering?! And if so, so the majority of the voting public, celebrates suffering?! lol
Post whatever you want. But don’t pretend your motivation is anything other than tribal identity and spite.
Says the guy who wants to stifle spaces for conservatives so you can turn them into mocking and memes. You don’t want to hear opposing opinions. You want to mock and meme. So do that. How did it work out for ya all the last election?
Democrats aren’t saints, theyre imperfect allies at best But there’s a fundamental difference in approach. ds generally try to govern and pass legislation, while McConnell openly declared his primary goal was blocking Obama’s agenda. When Ds obstruct, it’s usually on specific harmful policies, not a total blanket refusal to let the other side accomplish anything. There’s a difference between principled opposition and sabotaging government function.
Oh look, now you’re blaming Democrats for Republican destruction. Classic abuser logic: “Why did you make me hurt you?”
Finally some honesty! “I don’t give a fuck about policy” - we’ve reached the core of MAGA politics. You “like what he’s doing” but can’t defend any of it on substance. Pure emotion and tribalism.
Everyone needs spaces to vent and joke. Conservatives have entire media empires dedicated to spreading their misinformation and conspiracy theories. Fox News, OAN, countless Facebook groups and Telegram channels, even Lemmy instances, yet you’re mad about some memes on Lemmy who hasn’t even broken 50k MAUs?
The idea that Democrats lost because we weren’t nice enough to people actively supporting policies that harm vulnerable communities is laughable. “I voted to take away healthcare from millions because someone was mean to me online” isn’t the flex you think it is.
So you’re admitting you voted to hurt people out of spite? And somehow we’re the bad guys for making memes?
No actual anarchist would support the most authoritarian president in modern history. You’re not an anarchist; you’re just angry and nihilistic.
And there it is. The mask comes off. This was never about policy or principles. It’s about hurting people you don’t like. Thanks for finally being honest about it.
so you think every fucking democrat on Lemmy is some political Philosophy input and is as fucking nerdy about politics as you are? Get the fuck outta here with that.
Again, a perfect example of why you all lost. You insist that everyone has to be at your level of intelligence or they are not worth anything.
Keep it up. You’ll lose the next election too. And I’ll laugh again.
I’m not angry at all. I’m having a fucking great time. You are angry. I’m not. At all.
Guess Lemmy shouldn’t be so quick to do jerky things like turn conservative communities into meme communites that make fun of conservatives.
How that work out in the last election?
I never wore a mask. I have no desire to hurt people. But I do love how shocked you all were that your holier-than-thou attitude didn’t win any elections.
And here’s the thing. I think you actually know a lot of it was how democrat attitudes are percieved. Like you said, elections are won just by policy. It’s people skills.
Maybe all the fed people laid off can “learn to code.” You all will totally help them out! No worries.
You fucking laugh and mock people who aren’t in your little bubble. Now you can handle what the results of that is.
Rather than just wait/ask that a good conservative mod comes, you decide to mock conservatives. Just like what you are doing with this community.
I promise you this: Whether I am on Lemmy or not, banned or not, I will never ever ever EVER vote for a Democrat. Because of what I have seen on here. I would rather watch the world burn down and start from sticks and stones.
You specifically mock and make fun of people who aren’t in your little circle. And take glee in the mocking.
YOU, yes, YOU deserve Trump. And I will fucking laugh about it every single day until Trump leaves office.
Nah, I’m not mad. I’m laughing and I feel like it’s totally just that you all got your asses handed to you.
No, but most people who vote care about at least some policies that affect their lives. You’ve spent this entire conversation dodging every policy point while openly declaring vote purely based on spite. Huge difference.
Never said that. I said policy matters more than tribal politics. You’re the one who keeps bringing up intelligence, which is telling. Nobody said you need a PHD level understanding of politics, just reading up on the policies themselves should not be that huge of an ask.
Your all-caps rants, excessive swearing, and “I will never ever ever EVER vote for a Democrat” suggest otherwise. People having a great time don’t usually type like they’re screaming or have to constantly say “I’m not mad” who are you trying to convince?
You’re still hung up on a meme community while openly supporting politicians who are actively stripping rights from marginalized people. One of these things is not like the other.
There’s a difference between mocking harmful ideas and mocking people. Conservative policies have real, harmful impacts on vulnerable communities. That deserves criticism, and memes are a form of criticism.
And there it is again. You claim you “have no desire to hurt people” then immediately say you’d rather see the world burn than vote for someone who might help others. The contradiction is stunning.
Nope. lol
Not hung up on it all. It’s just that it shows how much you aren’t to be taken seriously–you are just anti-republican, regardless of policy. You don’t take me seriously and I certainly don’t take you seriously.
And you actually mock people.
In your opinion. But you didn’t win the election, so not everyone agrees with you.
There was a criticism of your actions not fitting the spirit of the community by you wanting to take it over. And you replied that there was no Lemmy rule that you had to follow the spirit of a community that you took over.
Which means that you have no intention on letting conservative voices be heard.
So following your logic, there is no Lemmy rule that I have to defend every news article I post. I post links to news articles. Nothing makes you click on them. I have every right to do it and I will continue to do it.
You lost. That’s it. Lemmy’s opinion isn’t shared by the majority of the public.
You keep posting jokes, and I’ll keep posting articles. Let’s see which party wins the next election.
Great counterargument. Very convincing.
I’ve repeatedly tried to discuss specific policies throughout this entire conversation. You’re the one who admitted “I don’t give a fuck” about policy and just “like Trump.” The projection is astounding.
Says the person who’s spent this entire thread mocking “Lemmy jerks” and celebrating others’ suffering.
Electoral victory doesn’t determine objective reality. Policies that remove healthcare, cut food assistance, and target marginalized groups cause measurable harm regardless of how many people voted for them. That’s not opinion its documented fact.
Conservative voices are heard everywhere Faux News, OAN, Congress, the White House, the Supreme Court, Truth Social. The idea that conservatives are being silenced while controlling most levels of government is absurd victimhood.
Post whatever you want. Just don’t be surprised when people call out misinformation or propaganda.
You keep coming back to “you lost” like it’s some devastating gotcha. Electoral outcomes don’t determine moral rightness. Segregation was once popular to.
And there it is you’ve reduced politics to a team sport (yet again) where “winning” matters more than the actual impact on people’s lives
When have I ever celebated “suffering”?
But it’s your OPINION. Some don’t agree with you and they have their own moral rightness.
Like I said, you gone and keep posting your memes. I’ll keep posting links to news articles. And we’ll see who wins next election.
You said: “I will never EVER vote for a Democrat. I would rather watch the world burn” and “You deserve Trump. And I will fucking laugh about it every single day.” You’re explicitly celebrating policies that cause harm because they upset people you don’t like.
No, it’s not just opinion that removing healthcare causes suffering. It’s not just opinion that cutting food assistance increases hunger. These are measurable outcomes with real human consequences. When people lose access to insulin and die, that’s not a difference of opinion, it’s preventable tragedy.
This “everything is just an opinion” stance is a way to avoid engaging with the actual human impacts of policies. It’s a cop-out that lets you ignore the consequences of what you support.
And we’re back to treating politics like a sport rather than something that determines whether people live or die. You’ve made it abundantly clear that “winning” matters more to you than the welfare of your fellow citizens.
Post whatever you want. But don’t pretend your motivation is anything other than tribal identity and spite.
That’s not “celebrating” suffering. lol
I, and many others, don’t think these policies cause harm. Do you think every person that voted for Trump celebrates suffering?! And if so, so the majority of the voting public, celebrates suffering?! lol
Says the guy who wants to stifle spaces for conservatives so you can turn them into mocking and memes. You don’t want to hear opposing opinions. You want to mock and meme. So do that. How did it work out for ya all the last election?