https://lemmy.world/comment/15319695

I’m guessing they did this because my comment didn’t have the correct positive vibes for them on their post when they’re the moderator.

It’s funny because 196 and almost all of its derivatives are rightfully anti-tankie because tankies promote centrism and conservatism directly harmful to trans and gay rights.

  • archomrade [he/him]English
    1•6 hours ago

    The only point in which Marx comments on cultural practices is to point to how it is used to reinforce labor relations with capital.

    If there’s any definitive ‘culture’ to Marx it’s more broadly counter-traditional than anything specific.

    • @PugJesusEnglish
      2•6 hours ago

      The only point in which Marx comments on cultural practices is to point to how it is used to reinforce labor relations with capital.

      Because 90% of Marx’s writing is about class relations. That’s like saying “The only part where the rock star sings is when the guitar is playing”, no fucking shit.

      If there’s any definitive ‘culture’ to Marx it’s more broadly counter-traditional than anything specific.

      So now we’ve moved on from “it has no real way of comparing cultural qualities because it’s a materialist worldview” to “Marxism doesn’t have a culture”, which isn’t even close to what was said and what I objected to.

      • archomrade [he/him]English
        -1•6 hours ago

        Because 90% of Marx’s writing is about class relations.

        Yes that’s the point. Marx isn’t concerned with cultural expression outside of how it’s used inside class relations. Which is why it’s inane to point to ‘the culture of marxism’, because outside of that narrow materialist context marxism doesn’t concern itself with culture.

        • @PugJesusEnglish
          1•6 hours ago

          Yes that’s the point. Marx isn’t concerned with cultural expression outside of how it’s used inside class relations. Which is why it’s inane to point to ‘the culture of marxism’, because outside of that narrow materialist context marxism doesn’t concern itself with culture.

          So now we’ve moved on from “it has no real way of comparing cultural qualities because it’s a materialist worldview” to “Marxism doesn’t have a culture”, which isn’t even close to what was said and what I objected to.

          • archomrade [he/him]English
            -1•6 hours ago

            Unless you’re planning on articulating what it is you’re actually objecting to I can’t really help you make sense of those two statements.

            • @PugJesusEnglish
              2•6 hours ago

              Marxism being an explicitly a materialist worldview does not mean that it has no real way of comparing cultural qualities.

              • archomrade [he/him]English
                -1•5 hours ago

                Outside of how they relate to material conditions, it doesn’t.

                It can’t help inform your gender identity any more than it can help you decide what toppings to put on your pizza. Attributing that kind of cultural expression to an ideology that has nothing to say about it isn’t just dumb, it’s fascistic.

                • @PugJesusEnglish
                  2•5 hours ago

                  Outside of how they relate to material conditions, it doesn’t.

                  What part of culture can’t be related to material conditions, again? I’m pretty sure that’s the point of materialism.

                  I guess basic concepts are too complex to parse. Sorry for overtaxing you.

                  It can’t help inform your gender identity any more than it can help you decide what toppings to put on your pizza.

                  “It can’t tell you what your preferences are, therefore, it has no way of comparing cultural qualities.”

                  Jesus fucking Christ.