Anything you say or do on Firefox may be used by Mozilla against you. You have the right to use a different browser. If you cannot find a browser that doesn’t fuck you over one way or another, one will not be provided for you because capitalism is working exactly as designed.

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-terms-of-use/

https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/information-about-the-new-terms-of-use-and-updated-privacy/td-p/87735

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  • @BlackAura
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    This statement is entirely useless without also reading the Privacy Notice.

    When you type in “https://lemmy.world”, guess what? They kind of need to know where you’re going in order to process that request. They are processing that url. At least within the browser.

    If you take the time to read the Privacy Notice, they point out the data that actually gets stored by them. Also they point out all the stuff that never leaves your device and is only processed within the browser on your machine. Guess what, your browsing history is one of those things that never leaves the machine.

    “Mozilla collects certain data, like technical and settings data, to provide the core functionality of the Firefox browser and associated services, distinguish your device from others, remember and respect your settings, and provide you with default features such as New Tab, PDF editing, password manager and Total Cookie Protection. You can further customize your Firefox experience by adjusting your controls, buttons, and toolbars and adding features with add-ons.”

    Great, if I signed in to my account in Firefox and asked it to mirror saved bookmarks and passwords across all my devices… How do you think it’s going to do that without sending data to Mozilla’s servers? Don’t turn on those features and the data doesn’t get stored. Awesome.

    Okay, cool… What about stuff it doesn’t collect?

    “Firefox processes a variety of personal data in a way that does not leave your device, such as browsing history, web form data, temporary internet files, and cookies. This means the data stays on your device and is not sent to Mozilla’s servers unless it says otherwise in this Notice. If you choose to allow it, your precise location may also be processed for location-related functionality for websites like Google Maps; this data is only accessed from your device by the website(s) you choose to enable it for — it is not sent to Mozilla’s servers.”

    Cool, so all the privacy things I care about… Never actually leave my device?

    Awesome. Oh hey they say something about search here…

    “When you perform a search in Firefox, your search query, device data and location data will be processed by your default search engine (according to their applicable Privacy Notice) to provide your search results and search suggestions.”

    Well if I want Google / Bing / DuckDuckGo search results… I guess it’s gonna have to send them my search request. Makes sense.

    Oh Firefox also shows it’s own search results but… Oh cool I can disable those and no data will be sent to Mozilla.

    " […] Mozilla processes certain technical and interaction data, such as how many searches you perform, how many sponsored suggestions you see and whether you interact with them. Mozilla’s partners receive de-identified information about interactions with the suggestions they’ve served. You can enable or disable Search suggestions at any time."

    Maybe take the time to read everything before you spread FUD.

    • @[email protected]
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      When you type in “https://lemmy.world/”, guess what? They kind of need to know where you’re going in order to process that request. They are processing that url.

      They are not, and there is no reason a record of me visiting that or any other URL ever needs to touch Mozilla’s servers.

      Mozilla is not my proxy, it is not my VPN, it is not my DNS.

      They make the browser software and that’s it. They do not need to collect information on my, or anyone else’s, reading habits.

    • @[email protected]
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      “When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox.”

      Regardless of how they claim they use it (" to help you"), that’s ambiguous. And since they have a “nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license” to that data, they can use it however they see fit. Today, or ten years from now.

      And people like you (apologists) are OK with that.

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        While that’s certainly an overly broad license they’ve made users agree to, they’ve not taken away a user’s ability to simply opt out. Also, yes that should be the default, I agree.

        For me at least, that’s a good enough reason to stick with it over chromium based browsers

    • @[email protected]
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      11 day ago

      I was just answering your question. You asked what people were concerned about, so I pointed it out. This isn’t even remotely a concern for me. No need to talk down to me and then go on a tirade I didn’t read. Have a good one, champ.