• d00phy
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    88 hours ago

    I posted this on another article a day or two ago… still feeling the same way:

    I feel like he’s in a better position than people give him credit for. Europe is behind him, and Trump wants to have his cake (besties with Putin) and eat it (NATO). If he rejects Trump’s bullying in the negotiations, it forces Trump to decide. If he sides with Putin, that’s pretty much it for NATO, US-Euro relations. Possibly the UN, as well. The US loses A LOT in the way of economic, intelligence, and strategic cooperation all to become a VERY weakened dictatorship’s new best friend. I’m mean, of course that’s what Trump will do because “4d chess,” and “art of the deal,” and whatever.

    It all kind of depends on Europe. They kind of want the best of both worlds too (back Ukraine and not lose the US as an ally). Which is more important to them? Germany’s new chancellor offered a hopeful signal after winning the election, and I have a feeling Macron and Starmer won’t ditch Ukraine, but we’ll see if that sentiment holds when shit gets real.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      8 hours ago

      What makes you think NATO is something he wants? If anything, he could be plotting a 30x bigger surprise than the invasion of Ukraine if the americans betray Europe on the battlefield by removing all the NATO command structures by surprise in the event of new russian escalation.

      • d00phy
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        22 hours ago

        He’s made noise about NATO, but… he makes a lot of noise. He also, to a small extent had a point at one time about nations committing the agreed upon percentages of their budgets to defense. Regardless, today’s actions paint a pretty clear picture for Europe and the rest of the world.

        • @[email protected]OP
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          32 hours ago

          But he doesn’t even understand how that works, he thought it was protection money. “Ya gotta pay your bills”