I don’t understand how they are supposed to “sell your data” if you just never use a Mozilla account and uncheck all the telemetry. Its not like they can secretly steal your data, since its Open Source.

It seems to me like just more FUD that Google is spreading to undermine our trust in free software.

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    Mozilla just can’t stop taking Ls. This new and unnecessary development is another one.

    Putting a local LLM into a product that doesn’t need it, just like other businesses do, is just one step too far for me. I hate this AI trend with a passion.

    Good thing that Firefox is open source so that we can just switch forks.

    • @[email protected]
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      Putting a local LLM into a product that doesn’t need it, just like other businesses do, is just one step too far for me. I hate this AI trend with a passion.

      Seconded, the pushing AI trend is just off putting and is something that literally no-one asked for. It reminds me of that brief trend of 3D TVs.

      • macniel
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        11 day ago

        you don’t need AI for automated translations though.

        • @[email protected]
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          There is no ai in ai, it’s just a program. In case of firefox translations it was made specifically for machine translation and later adapted to use with firefox browser.

          • macniel
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            There is no ai in ai, it’s just a program.

            well duh. But why is Mozilla investing in LLM research then?

            • @[email protected]
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              Firefox translate isn’t an llm afaik. Anyway, why wouldn’t they? LLMs aren’t inherently good or bad, they are useful, and pushing for offline local first ai is a good thing.

              • macniel
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                is the LLM or its trainingdata opensource though, do we know what it does/is trained on?

                • @[email protected]
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                  There are truly open llm, there are somewhat open. If you are asking about firefox translate, it seems that models themselves weren’t trained by mozilla.

    • @[email protected]
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      How does having an AI-chat feature in a browser diminish it’s quality? No one’s forced to use any feature.

      • macniel
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        Where does I say that it diminish it’s quality?

        Also the you don’t have to use it, is a weak argument not even for or against it.

        • @Deestan
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          Also the you don’t have to use it, is a weak argument not even for or against

          “Our pizza now comes with a topping of human feces!”

          “Ew”

          “What? Just scrape it off if you don’t like it”