I watched a bit of the meeting, not the whole thing, but the bit where Trump and Vance started lashing out at Zelenskyy. There’s been a lot of talk about it on here, and I agree Trump and Vance are big man babies trying to bully Ukraine into an unfavorable deal, but I’m still not clear on how this affects, well, everything I guess. Can someone ELI5?

  • magnetosphere
    13•1 day ago

    A government that will invade on the flimsiest of pretexts, kidnap your citizens, and lie constantly is anything but a “friend”.

      • Clay_pidginEnglish
        5•23 hours ago

        You are a useful idiot. Russia could have chosen not to invade a country with whom they had a treaty specifically saying they wouldn’t.

        https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Ukraine._Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances

        The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and The United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act, to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine.

        The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and The United States of America reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defense or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.