• @douglasg14b
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    107 hours ago

    As long as they don’t cut off gas to the PNW. Almost all the natural gas we use comes from Canada, and the majority of the voters there didn’t vote for this.

    That would be fucking brutal, no heat or cooking gas.

    • @[email protected]
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      257 hours ago

      It’s always the right time to switch to heat pumps and induction stoves. Gas is terrible.

      • @[email protected]
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        06 hours ago

        Gas is terrible until the power grid goes down in the middle of winter.

        Electric should definitely be the main go to but we should all have gas hookup for a backup heat source in my opinion.

        • @[email protected]
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          155 hours ago

          That’s excessive compared to the extremely low risk of a blackout in developed countries (excluding the United States which has regular blackouts). To illustrate:

          US households spent 5.5 hours without electricity on average in 2022. Excluding major events like hurricanes, the number drops to 2.1 hours.

          German households spent a whopping 12.2 minutes without electricity on average in 2022.

          A portable gas heater, blankets and a camping stove are completely sufficient for the average person considering most longer power outages last for a couple of hours at worst. Exceedingly rare longer blackouts will always have a government aid program, such as a heated gym with free food, near your location.

          The only one’s who should really prepare for blackouts are:

          • the government
          • people who live hours away from civilization with very limited infrastructure connecting them
          • @[email protected]
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            53 hours ago

            I agree, though here’s my anecdote from the PNW.

            We’ve had a couple storms this winter. One of them I lost power for 4 hours, but a friend of mine in the next town over was out 4 days. And some didn’t lose at all, so it varies. Power outages like this aren’t too rare every year.

            It doesn’t bode well for our freezers, but we don’t get cold enough to be anything other than cold and inconvenient. Easily remedied by temporary solutions you mentioned.

        • @SlopppyEngineer
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          115 hours ago

          Until you discover that the gas infrastructure and your home heather need electricity to function. You better have an old fashion gas stove as backup that you can use until gas pressure drops too much. You could get bottles of gas and a camping heater but every year people die because they use these indoors and get CO poisoning so be careful.

          • @[email protected]
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            244 minutes ago

            Are you sure you’re not thinking of generators? All the popular propane heaters in the US have CO shutoffs. There’s not really a point to using a heater outdoors in the first place unless it’s one of the huge ones that take a 20 pound tank and very obviously shouldn’t be used indoors.

          • socsa
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            133 minutes ago

            Trust me, I would love to get ride of gas, but my stove does work fine without power. Also, utilities generally don’t go down because of weather, since they have backup power on site.

    • The Pantser
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      127 hours ago

      Just the thing to enrage the masses. It’ll be hard but the only thing that might change the mind of of MAGAt is suffering.

      • AmbiguousProps
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        35 hours ago

        The MAGAts know that the PNW doesn’t like them, and will happily watch the PNW suffer, unfortunately.