• @[email protected]
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    5 hours ago

    We can. The US only pushed us to buy F35 to carry their atomic warheads.
    Eurofighter, Rafale and Gripen are excellent fighter jets.

    • @[email protected]
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      5 hours ago

      Are the Eurofighter really good?
      At least in the first years I’ve only read about problems and the ones in Austria couldn’t fly for most of the time
      But that’s quite some years ago, so I can’t remember what the problems actually were - and have no idea, if those got finally resolved

      Is there any comparison to relative modern MiGs (or whatever the correct counterpart would be)?

      Edit: also I’ve read that the American jets have some kind of lock, where we need some unlock code from the USA. Is that correct?
      Because that is quite some high level of trust into a foreign power to let ourselves defend our countries

      • @krimson
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        85 hours ago

        Not sure if they are any good now but I know the F35 had major issues as well.

        • @[email protected]
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          55 hours ago

          Also the F35s are very complex and require a lot of maintenance. Not sure about EF , Rafale or Gripens.

          • Skua
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            54 hours ago

            Gripen is specifically built to be cheap and easy to maintain (for a fighter jet, of course). It seems like it’d be a great choice for Ukraine

          • @WhatAmLemmy
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            44 hours ago

            Also, if any of these contain proprietary code that can not be independently inspected by military staff, they should be considered compromised.

            Corporations exist to generate profit. They do not care about borders, and can’t be trusted to not share information with current and future adversaries.

            • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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              34 hours ago

              Some Finnish guy claimed that it’s not just that F35s contain proprietary code, they actively phone home daily to the US and stop working if they can’t reach the server.

              If that’s true, it’s incredibly fucked up and whoever made the deal to buy them should be fired out of a cannon.

        • @[email protected]
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          14 hours ago

          Yeah, seems quality of new releases are shit quite over the board - except for some lonely exceptions

      • Skua
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        24 hours ago

        The Austrian Typhoons are all the earliest model and Austria chose not to upgrade any of them, so they’re approaching 25 years old and a less mature design than everyone else’s Typhoons

      • @Skyrmir
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        14 hours ago

        New air frames tend to have a lot of issues. They’re kind of at the limits of engineering complexity. Too many parts optimized for weight/strength just perfectly, until there’s that one extra side load, or power drain, that no one expected. That’s why a lot of test designs end at the full scale testing stage. It’s not until all the parts are in one place that you can really see if they all work together.