Levi’s vintage collection already has pairs in the $300+ range. The $50-60 msrp they’re asking for their thin as paper normal jeans now is robbery. I’m aware they’re available much cheaper but msrp is just a benchmark for comparison. I have some jeans from high school(decades ago) that are still in decent shape. Yes, I still fit in them fine and wear them constantly. Any normal pair I’ve bought in the last couple years are already trash. Their quality is abysmal now.

Not to mention it’s exceedingly difficult to find regular not ‘stretch’ jeans. The 505’s are available in both but the stretch version is everywhere and most online places don’t specify. The stretch are thinner and are even more garbage than the non-stretch. Not to mention I’ve gotten 505’s from multiple countries of origin and the patterns are not the same. The pocket depth being a glaringly obvious one. Phone doesn’t fit in any that come from a particular country but fine from others.

The vintage collection depending on what you buy has some actual heft to it(downside is they’re hot), are generally selvage denim, and come in way more sizes that the normal jeans don’t. On extreme sale they’re worth it…last pair I got for like $80 down from msrp of $267. Those have actually lasted the ~7 years I’ve owned them. Haven’t seen that price again though. Think closest as of late was like $140-160…No thanks.

That became way more ranty than I thought it would…apparently I’ve got some strong feelings about jeans.