So just openly anti-leftist and trying to promote Lemmy as another pro-fascism and pro-corporate and pro-war social platform. Real big brain move, doofus.
New Lemmy users, be aware: a lot of the Reddit astroturfers duplicate their efforts here. Lemmy.ml is a leftist and anti-war instance, so it gets a lot of pushback from the astroturfers. Be immediately suspicious of anyone talking shit of Lemmy.ml. It’s mostly bad actors and pro-war people.
Also, Lemmy.world is chock full of the same abusive and sketchy power mods from Reddit.
lemmy.world news and politics subs are ran by neo lib regime apologists… they follow reddit censorship model.
when the dead CEO happened, they lied they were blocking Luigi discussion because they were legally obligated to do this. that turned to be a fucking lie because the main Luigi sub i hosted on lemmy.world now
The bans will come, just block those communities, there alternatives where proper discourse is permitted.
Reddit rebranded censorship into “modding” but you have to be stupid not to see what this is actually about. The parasite class does not want people having independent discussion on how they are fucking us.
Never said Lemmy is pro-corporate. The anti-Lemmy.ml posters are.
By “apologists for their crimes,” you’re referring to Lemmy.ml users providing sources dispelling the western hoaxes. Yes, they tend to be better educated and don’t simply repeat western propaganda that’s been debunked.
I was on .ml about 2 years before .world existed and discovered tankies and their ideas
russia amassing troops on the ukrainian border? just exercises, don’t believe western propaganda.
Days later, invasion. well no it’s actually ukraine invading russia (I shit you not)
oh well ok it’s a “military operation”, but that’s because they’re nazis, and bio weapon laboratories to attack russia. Etc,etc
If you have 2 braincells compare tankie and far right talking points, and underline the similarities
Please link the upvoted opinions that you claim exist like “Ukraine is the one invading Russia” and agreeing it’s “just a military operation”.
You won’t, because you’re making this shit up. And I know you won’t because I’ve challenged far too many people to provide evidence of the wide variety of made up shit and none of them ever have.
it’s most likely from yogsaron yogtos or agreeable landscape
I took screenshots, I’ll try to dig for them
Edit: so it was Donbas invasion, my bad, it’s hard to remember bullshit. if I find enough screenshots maybe I’ll make a post to show what c/worldnews on .ml looked like before the reddit migration.
Here you see some resistance, but believe me it was mainly tankies, and those absurd posts were upvoted. Sometimes people were trying to inject some sanity, but against the incessant flow of upvoted propaganda, would cash out.
Typical post mocking the absurdity of an invasion (they were a dime a dozen):
For like three months before the invasion, Western sources were egging it on with everything they had. Tankies mostly got it wrong by assuming that Putin would be smart enough not to take the bait, because we all recognized that it would be a disastrously bad idea.
.ml site-bans people for their speech even on other instances, now that’s a page right out of the reddit power tripping mod handbook when you’d get banned from a sub because you interacted with another sub they didn’t like
I think “most” people just believe uncritically the things they were taught growing up, that is until something happens that shakes that belief and they either choose to double down or reexamine their previous assumptions. All the new western tankies from the past decade-ish aren’t coming from nowhere!
Anti-tankies aren’t getting banned because they’re not supporting leftists and Luigi, genius. They’re allowed to stay on Reddit and post NATO propaganda to their heart’s content.
Yes, you’ve attempted to play yourself off as leftist-adjacent to push these topics before. We’ve gotten into back and forths on this multiple times, and every time you’re provided a source that the western talking points you’re pushing are debunked, you repeat the State Dept propaganda verbatim.
Ah yes, your “sources” that are always random websites, blogs and YT videos with 0 legitimacy. And when you do post a primary source it contradicts your point.
Or the time you posted a state department source to support your point and not only did it not, it proved that you only deride against sources as “propaganda” when they’re against you, but when you think they’re for you it’s all hunky dory? Lol
So, it’s either support authoritarianism or your not left? What kinda crap is that?
True, I think .world does over do it a bit, but I think it’s more just because they’re such a large instance that bad moderation decisions are much more frequent
Unlike .ml, where the mods/admins methods push a clear narrative
Censorship I agree with is still censorship. I’m not a free speech absolutist but I realize that my views are not universal. For example, a Nazi would say I’m pushing the narrative that there is a single human race
So just openly anti-leftist and trying to promote Lemmy as another pro-fascism and pro-corporate and pro-war social platform. Real big brain move, doofus.
New Lemmy users, be aware: a lot of the Reddit astroturfers duplicate their efforts here. Lemmy.ml is a leftist and anti-war instance, so it gets a lot of pushback from the astroturfers. Be immediately suspicious of anyone talking shit of Lemmy.ml. It’s mostly bad actors and pro-war people.
Also, Lemmy.world is chock full of the same abusive and sketchy power mods from Reddit.
lemmy.world news and politics subs are ran by neo lib regime apologists… they follow reddit censorship model.
when the dead CEO happened, they lied they were blocking Luigi discussion because they were legally obligated to do this. that turned to be a fucking lie because the main Luigi sub i hosted on lemmy.world now
The bans will come, just block those communities, there alternatives where proper discourse is permitted.
Reddit rebranded censorship into “modding” but you have to be stupid not to see what this is actually about. The parasite class does not want people having independent discussion on how they are fucking us.
I’d say the powermods here can be even worse. Immediate bans for anything even slightly leftist in those communities.
Tankies are anti-leftists. Full stop. Dressing it up in Soviet garb doesn’t make their ideology any less authoritarian.
They just label anyone who opposes European Nazis “tankies” now.
.ml also has quite a few USSR- and China-fans (apologists for their crimes, going as far as praising Lenin/Stalin/Mao and similar leaders)
And I wouldn’t call .ml anti-war, just look at their stance on Ukraine for example (very common: “Russia had to do it because of the evil west”)
Calling Lemmy pro-corporate just reads like a joke. The entire point of it is to be independent from companies.
I also wouldn’t recommend Lemmy.world simply because it isn’t healthy when one instance gets too big.
Never said Lemmy is pro-corporate. The anti-Lemmy.ml posters are.
By “apologists for their crimes,” you’re referring to Lemmy.ml users providing sources dispelling the western hoaxes. Yes, they tend to be better educated and don’t simply repeat western propaganda that’s been debunked.
They’re “disproving” “western hoaxes” like the holodomor or uyghur suppression, and praising the USSR and China for being so kind to its inhabitants…
And how is OP trying to “promote Lemmy as another pro-fascism and pro-corporate and pro-war social platform”?
Nobody is denying that the Soviet Famine happened, what they deny is the totally fabricated claim that it was a targeted genocide against Ukrainians.
Nobody is denying that there was/is a police crackdown, what they deny is the totally fabricated claim that it is a targeted genocide against Uyghurs.
tankie
Nazi sympathizer.
my fucking sides
new users, either believe we’re alt right astroturfers, or go to the tankie servers, familiarize yourself with their ideas, make your own opinion
I agree. They should look at Lemmy.ml to see what y’all are opposing.
Thank you for your accidental recruitment efforts.
I’m glad we can agree on this.
I was on .ml about 2 years before .world existed and discovered tankies and their ideas
russia amassing troops on the ukrainian border? just exercises, don’t believe western propaganda.
Days later, invasion. well no it’s actually ukraine invading russia (I shit you not)
oh well ok it’s a “military operation”, but that’s because they’re nazis, and bio weapon laboratories to attack russia. Etc,etc
If you have 2 braincells compare tankie and far right talking points, and underline the similarities
Right:
Left:
They didn’t say “far right and left”, they said “far right and tankie”.
(Both images were taken from Hexbear, take from that what you will)
Please link the upvoted opinions that you claim exist like “Ukraine is the one invading Russia” and agreeing it’s “just a military operation”.
You won’t, because you’re making this shit up. And I know you won’t because I’ve challenged far too many people to provide evidence of the wide variety of made up shit and none of them ever have.
it’s most likely from
yogsaronyogtos or agreeable landscapeI took screenshots, I’ll try to dig for them
Edit: so it was Donbas invasion, my bad, it’s hard to remember bullshit. if I find enough screenshots maybe I’ll make a post to show what c/worldnews on .ml looked like before the reddit migration. Here you see some resistance, but believe me it was mainly tankies, and those absurd posts were upvoted. Sometimes people were trying to inject some sanity, but against the incessant flow of upvoted propaganda, would cash out.
Typical post mocking the absurdity of an invasion (they were a dime a dozen):
tankes gonna tankie
NATO was amassing troops & missile deployments on the border with Ukraine for years. Since Obama.
Almost like Ukraine has been invaded by them before, perhaps during said presidents second term?
For like three months before the invasion, Western sources were egging it on with everything they had. Tankies mostly got it wrong by assuming that Putin would be smart enough not to take the bait, because we all recognized that it would be a disastrously bad idea.
Oh hey we were right about that much at least.
Look at the mental gymnastics required so they can end the comment with
And feel better about themselves. Pathetic
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Yeah see it’s bullshit like that which makes everyone point and laugh at you guys
Because we were watching the news in 2014? That’s a flex for you that you didn’t know?
They should check out hexbear too.
Lol .ml is not leftist, they’re authoritarians.
.ml site-bans people for their speech even on other instances, now that’s a page right out of the reddit power tripping mod handbook when you’d get banned from a sub because you interacted with another sub they didn’t like
https://lemmy.world/post/26416571
https://lemmy.world/post/26047186
At least here the modlog is public and I can document the speech that .ml actually removes
I do think .ml is a little too intense, but op is also kinda right about .world imo. Come to dbzero, we’ve got anarchism and piracy
Also we’re all cool and intelligent and attractive.
Obviously
Throw in some cookies and I’d be there.
What about pirated cookbooks with cookie recipes?
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They’re 100% BlueMAGA in my opinion.
Hate to break it to ya, but most people on Reddit are in fact anti-tankie
Also please show me my last post on this because it has been a while lmao
I think “most” people just believe uncritically the things they were taught growing up, that is until something happens that shakes that belief and they either choose to double down or reexamine their previous assumptions. All the new western tankies from the past decade-ish aren’t coming from nowhere!
Anti-tankies aren’t getting banned because they’re not supporting leftists and Luigi, genius. They’re allowed to stay on Reddit and post NATO propaganda to their heart’s content.
Tankie!= Leftists, Tankies = authoritarians
For example, I myself 1000% support Luigi and shit on my gov all the time lmao
But I am absolutely anti-tankie, because I do not support authoritarianism regardless of if it’s the US or China/Russia
Yes, you’ve attempted to play yourself off as leftist-adjacent to push these topics before. We’ve gotten into back and forths on this multiple times, and every time you’re provided a source that the western talking points you’re pushing are debunked, you repeat the State Dept propaganda verbatim.
I think he supports every socialist revolution, except for every one that succeeds.
Ah yes, your “sources” that are always random websites, blogs and YT videos with 0 legitimacy. And when you do post a primary source it contradicts your point.
Or the time you posted a state department source to support your point and not only did it not, it proved that you only deride against sources as “propaganda” when they’re against you, but when you think they’re for you it’s all hunky dory? Lol
So, it’s either support authoritarianism or your not left? What kinda crap is that?
True, I think .world does over do it a bit, but I think it’s more just because they’re such a large instance that bad moderation decisions are much more frequent
Unlike .ml, where the mods/admins methods push a clear narrative
Censorship I agree with is still censorship. I’m not a free speech absolutist but I realize that my views are not universal. For example, a Nazi would say I’m pushing the narrative that there is a single human race
Thank god you’re documenting the very important and widely censored speech like… checks links “we were gonna ban you anyway!!”.
Phew, this constructive dialogue will not go unheard by the people. Free speech is restored.