Because as the mod that removed the post, I’d like to give you my perspective if you’ll let me.
OP made a post that seemed to break rule 5 (we had multiple reports on it), and did not seem like a good-faith question breaking rule 1, so I removed the post
OP then makes a second post being fairly passive towards me, further showing that they were not posting in good-faith. So once again, removed the post for rule 1 and 5, messaged OP as well explaining this. This could have been a temp ban, I was being nice here, and reaching out to give OP the chance to explain they were not posting in bad faith.
OP then posts 13 times about the above in other communities, breaking some of the rules in those communities.
As mods it’s mayhem if you don’t enforce your rules, which is all I was trying to do, we have each rule to keep the community from getting out of control and offtopic. If we had no rules, the community would be filled with a bunch of trolls and offtopic posts.
IMO OP has proved multiple times now that their question was not in good-faith, and they were seeking out arguments (check their other comments) and drama (see the 13 posts).
Icing on the cake: we left their rephrased question up to avoid more of this drama, OP still kept posting the screenshots.
I agree that he isn’t acting in good faith, but silencing the discussion is (would be) the bigger issue to me than some silly troll.
I really appreciate your response and reasoning. I don’t have an issue with logistical moderation (e.g. duplicate threads) but I’m extremely adverse to moderation of actual topics for what should be obvious reasons.
Given that you left the other thread up, I think I can put away the pitchfork for now. I’ll have a look at your rules, and hopefully find myself satisfied and participating in your community.
Not going to argue with you about it here, but the short is: if that’s true, when I messaged you, you should have just had a conversation with me about it instead of all of this.
Don’t care. I don’t care about your sealioning either.
It is my view that some things should be dealt with through downvotes and discussion, not moderation. Especially when we are talking about authoritarianism of all fucking things.
Moderation in my view is an extreme measure that shouldn’t be enacted lightly. And I only want to participate in communities that share that view.
Yep, that’s part of my point.
I’ve already blocked the community over this. Know any alternatives?
Just want to make sure I understand, you blocked a community because they removed a post that broke their rules?
Yes. I disagree with their rules and their enforcement of them, and this exposed that. So I wont participate in it.
What else would you have me do in that scenario?
It’s not like I pour over each community’s rules before reading any content that surfaces from them.
Because as the mod that removed the post, I’d like to give you my perspective if you’ll let me.
As mods it’s mayhem if you don’t enforce your rules, which is all I was trying to do, we have each rule to keep the community from getting out of control and offtopic. If we had no rules, the community would be filled with a bunch of trolls and offtopic posts.
IMO OP has proved multiple times now that their question was not in good-faith, and they were seeking out arguments (check their other comments) and drama (see the 13 posts).
Icing on the cake: we left their rephrased question up to avoid more of this drama, OP still kept posting the screenshots.
Thanks for taking the time to break it down.
I agree that he isn’t acting in good faith, but silencing the discussion is (would be) the bigger issue to me than some silly troll.
I really appreciate your response and reasoning. I don’t have an issue with logistical moderation (e.g. duplicate threads) but I’m extremely adverse to moderation of actual topics for what should be obvious reasons.
Given that you left the other thread up, I think I can put away the pitchfork for now. I’ll have a look at your rules, and hopefully find myself satisfied and participating in your community.
Well thanks for understanding. The question itself was not a problem, hopefully that helps as well.
Look at the parody where i posted an equally vague post in ‘ask lemmy’ just moments earlier? Where is my bad faith? Where is my trolling?
https://lemmy.world/post/26618329
This isn’t even my first post on your sub. Look at any of the other posts I contributed.
What agenda am I pushing?
Sounds like you’ve just got it out for me.
Here i am in your “top year”
https://lemmy.world/post/24898604
Not going to argue with you about it here, but the short is: if that’s true, when I messaged you, you should have just had a conversation with me about it instead of all of this.
Have a good one.
Cause I was getting trolled in the same thread trying not to get frustrated with people!
Not an excuse.
What’s your excuse. You could have directed me to clarify.
I didn’t break any of their rules. They just selectively chose to decide i was trolling when I was actually getting trolled in the thread.
Don’t care. I don’t care about your sealioning either.
It is my view that some things should be dealt with through downvotes and discussion, not moderation. Especially when we are talking about authoritarianism of all fucking things.
Moderation in my view is an extreme measure that shouldn’t be enacted lightly. And I only want to participate in communities that share that view.
I was getting sealioned.
You’re going to lose what appears to be your only defender if you maintain that bullshit rhetoric.
Lol bye.