“fuck u/spez” means absolutely nothing to anyone who isn’t familiar with Reddit, it’s just noise.

“FIRE STEVE HUFFMAN” is a clear, actionable statement that has a clear target and goal and actually has meaning to people who don’t know what Reddit is (like say, a potential shareholder or investor)

Idk where to put this since r/savethirdpartyapps got banned so post this wherever will get noise if you agree

  • @ChunkMcHorkle
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    There are three main good faith issues with respect to the API changes.

    Hardly. First, there is zero good faith, and the proof is all around you. Whether you choose to be a sealion about it or not, like with the transcripts of Christian Selig’s interactions with Steve Huffman, the January promise to 3PA devs that API status would remain unchanged, the “landed gentry” cracks, the killing of the antispam bots and other moderator tools that were built outside Reddit because Reddit never would, the open lies to and about mods and subs participating in the protests, the shitty and inadequate kludged-together “mod tools” Reddit has shat out over the last three weeks with nothing but promises to replace the rest, and ALLLLLLL the broken promises not just over the years, but over the last month, the proof of zero good faith is all around you . . . and exists in countless iterations and interactions that Reddit can no longer control. But here you are, trying just the same.

    And those zero-faith situations, forgetting everything else and speaking solely in regard to the API defrauding of 3rd part app devs, FAR outnumber this arbitrary “three” you pulled out of your ass. Why you even bothered, I have no idea.

    Someone else brought up the Rif profitsharing that Spez put an end to several years ago which flatly puts the lie to your claim about ads, but another big one, the one that was the decider for me personally, that you didn’t even touch was how the exorbitant API pricing affected the disabled and visually impaired users of Reddit, not just the blind but anyone needing assistive technology or the help of the Transcribers of Reddit, etc, and how to this day none of the YEARS of empty promises of accessibility have ever been fulfilled by Reddit, Inc or its board.

    Many of us know what goes into a site that is actually committed to accessibility. Reddit doesn’t even come close. I don’t want anything to do with a company or a community that “otherizes” its less mainstream users, or makes life even harder for those who need a little more help than average to do well. But don’t take my word for it. Take theirs:

    [email protected]

    the kind of people who fondly remember when Reddit hosted racist groups

    Reddit, and /u/spez, have actively embraced and protected everything from r/jailbait to r/fatpeoplehate to r/coontown to r/T_D. Are you forgetting which sub Spez was editing comments in back in 2016, and why? It was T_D, and he was there as an active participant. If Reddit was ever a “roach motel,” it was because admin failed to act on the COUNTLESS times hate and bad actors were called to their attention, and still does to this day. It is not only extremely disingenuous, but outright insulting, that you would throw out that shredded rag of lies as another “good faith issue” when the truth is that historically, across the board, Reddit has done absolutely nothing to stop hate and illegal acts (like CSAM) UNTIL it was called out in the media, and that is their practice even now. Why does anyone need to remember anything? No need, it’s all STILL there, and will never not be there until Reddit gets called out on it . . . again.

    “Three main good faith issues,” ha. Dude, you moderate 39 subs. I’ve read a number of your posts on the moderator subs spouting known and provable falsehoods about the recent actions of Reddit, you’ve made it easy for anyone wanting to check the veracity of that statement by using the same username on both sites, and to be absolutely, brutally blunt about this: even if there were in some alternate universe a “good faith” argument to be made on behalf of the recent words and actions of Reddit, Inc. you are not the one to make it.

      • @ChunkMcHorkle
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        crisis krī′sĭs noun A crucial or decisive point or situation, especially a difficult or unstable situation involving an impending change.

        Interesting choice of words there. It’s a crisis because Reddit fraudulently and deliberately made it one, and destroyed a lot of people’s work created over a lot of years in doing so. Not just devs and their employees, but good mods and most importantly, users.

        Every single dishonest point you raise is something addressed during a working relationship, not after. And since when is Reddit legally responsible for what any third party has done with its access to the data from the very beginning (clue: it’s not).

        3PA devs tried to work with Reddit, were led to believe the relationship was satisfactory, and then had it all pulled out from under them with less than 30 days notice.

        There are so many untruths in your reply it’s not worth bothering with; it’s a list of squirrels. “Squirrel!

        Yeah, no. And of course, you didn’t touch on any of the real issues, at all, not even to lie about them, so thank you for that tacit acknowledgement anyway.

        In short, “where’s the fettucine?”

        Gone. Enjoy your fake MDAUs and your spambots.

        I get accused of being a “Powermod” because I do a lot of grunt moderation work on a lot of large, active subreddits – and network with a lot of other moderators who are accused of being “powermods”. Most of what I do is “serious” about moderation, and I’m considered the “knurd” of the group.

        LOL. I had a look over in r/ModSupport where you spend a good bit of your time. Among the sea of new scabs who don’t know how to sticky a comment, some real gems popped up:

        https://teddit.hostux.net/r/ModSupport/comments/154bp7n/friends_we_are_far_beyond_drowning_in_bots_please/

        https://teddit.hostux.net/r/ModSupport/comments/153ye9m/please_help_suspendedbanned_account_still_posting/

        https://teddit.hostux.net/r/ModSupport/comments/1554sr5/if_i_participate_in_the_new_mod_feedback_system/

        https://teddit.hostux.net/r/ModSupport/comments/1536q1l/reddit_chat_is_not_safe_as_you_think/

        Yeah. That’s the current state of affairs on Reddit. Good luck with that “grunt work” there, looks like you have it cut out for you, lol.

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          • @ChunkMcHorkle
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            If you like. But I’m not the one chasing after those who left Reddit with a pack of lies and an agenda to sell; I’m just one of those looking at it, and you, in the rearview.

            Which is to point out that you are here, in an “ex-pat” Lemmy community dedicated to the subject of Reddit, spouting provable falsehoods to those who have already left Reddit as though it makes any difference at all. Reddit is in its death throes and I’m not coming back.

            Project all you like, but I didn’t come to Reddit to falsely defend Lemmy to you. The reality of Reddit’s actions speaks for itself. And at this point in my life, living in my shoes is a privilege and an honor. I rest easy. Have a nice day.