Disclaimer: I have no quarrel with the mods using the term in the creation of this community. I understand why they chose it, as even if they share my disagreement with the term when applied to ADHD, there’s not really a better inclusive term. “Mental illness” is really the only other option, and naming a community that would probably invite darker discussions that the mods might not be prepared to handle.
Another disclaimer: I think the term is perfectly valid when applied to autism, as autism is not, to the best of my knowledge, a mental illness so much as a difference in processing. Being autistic is only “bad” in the sense that our society discourages autistic traits. (Apologies if this is wrong; I’m neither autistic nor especially knowledgeable about autism.)
The term “neurodivergent” implies that there’s nothing wrong with you if you have ADHD–you’re just special and different. But my ADHD is an illness that requires treatment. A lot of people will tell you that the only reason ADHDers struggle is because society is set up wrong, but I don’t think that’s true, at least for me. Being unable to remember anything, unable to self-start, and hypersensitive to rejection would be massive problems in any world. Sure, the world today is particularly brutal for ADHDers in a way we could probably mitigate if we reorganized society to be kinder, but that doesn’t mean ADHD isn’t ultimately a disorder that some people need to treat with medication and therapy.
Neurodivergent is a technical term that denotes that your brain is wired outside the norm. It doesn’t actually say anything about if it has a medical diagnosis attached or not.
I found the second part kind of funny because executive function deficit, issues with hypersensitivity, extreme empathy, struggle with impulse control and so on, are all things that people with ASD struggle with.
Yup, people with ASD, OCD, and CPTSD also struggle with these issues. They tend to be mis-diagnosed with other conditions on the list fairly frequently.
Side note: If you’re diagnosed with ADHD but stimulants make your symptoms worse, consider being evaluated for OCD instead. That was something a friend of mine experienced.
The fact that cPTSD, and other mental illnesses, can cause many of the same problems as “from birth hardwired” neurodivergences, does make me tend to consider mentally ill folks as a type of neurodivergent too, personally. The difference is they might one day no longer have cPTSD, I guess, but one might as well say they’re neurodivergent now and might not be later.
Neurodivergent is one of those terms I find both very useful and very misleading, in that I don’t think “neurotypicals” really exist in the way people talk about them.
Yeah, there’s definitely a conversation to be had about the terms and their usefulness. I do think it can be useful to differentiate “maybe possibly one day curable” conditions vs “you will always have this” conditions, and right now “neurodiverse” is used as that umbrella term. If something else suits it better later, I’m open to it.
However, just because different conditions can cause the same symptoms doesn’t mean we should group them together IMO. Both a cold and lung cancer can cause coughing, but it’s important to know why you are coughing to receive effective treatment, if that quick and rough analogy makes sense.
This is very true. A simple example I can think of is how repetitive behaviour can manifest anxiety in OCD but can be calming for people with ASD, but both show repetition.
I think it’s best to think of it as an umbrella term much like queer, where it’s just an acknowledgement of the diversity of human life and helping others to understand that you may think, behave, and act a bit differently than most people.
I was just about to write this same thing… And that’s for people with high functioning ASD! I used to babysit a kid with ASD who was non-verbal with cognitive impairment. He will need care the rest of his life. To say there are no struggles with having ASD is just not true.
Regarding the latter part of your post, I often wondered if I had ASD before I found out I had ADHD. A later psych eval turned up negative for it.
That might be the case. I learnt to mask growing up in a tough environment and it was really hard for me to get a diagnosis until a few years ago.