But if judgement also works in a purely deterministic way then it has a role to play. One doesn’t have to have agency (free will) in order for the negative experience of judgement to result in improved behaviour. Rational judgement discerns whether or not the punishment will reasonably bring about an improvement. As it does in many cases then it doesn’t matter that the world’s deterministic, good judgement can make it better.
(E.g. it might not be someone’s “fault” that they’re a mass murderer, but society is still taking the right course of action by denouncing their beliefs and restricting their freedom)
Yeah I agree that no free will doesn’t mean we can’t affect our own or other people’s behaviour. Punishment itself doesn’t make any sense but the fear of punishment does deter bad behaviour and yeah obviously mass murderers needs to be locked up. Not as a punishment but to protect others
But if judgement also works in a purely deterministic way then it has a role to play. One doesn’t have to have agency (free will) in order for the negative experience of judgement to result in improved behaviour. Rational judgement discerns whether or not the punishment will reasonably bring about an improvement. As it does in many cases then it doesn’t matter that the world’s deterministic, good judgement can make it better.
(E.g. it might not be someone’s “fault” that they’re a mass murderer, but society is still taking the right course of action by denouncing their beliefs and restricting their freedom)
Yeah I agree that no free will doesn’t mean we can’t affect our own or other people’s behaviour. Punishment itself doesn’t make any sense but the fear of punishment does deter bad behaviour and yeah obviously mass murderers needs to be locked up. Not as a punishment but to protect others