• LanguageIsCool
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    10 days ago

    If you’ve made it this far and you can’t fit the jigsaw pieces of America’s racist history and racist present, plus how politics has been dominated by white men almost exclusively, and how leftists are tired of it on so many levels, and you choose somehow to be offended by a white democratic nominee for president being called “safe white boy,” I don’t know what to tell you.

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      We elected a black man president in 2008, then suddenly got too racist. Sure, that makes perfect sense. It couldn’t possibly be the platforms the Democrats were running on. /s

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        I’m not sure if you’re replying to me but it doesn’t seem like you’re replying to what I said.

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          Holy fuck. Centrists are so goddamned desperate to run with their “we have to shut out AOC because the US is racist (until she’s no longer a threat to our hegemony)” narrative that they’re pretending Obama isn’t Black.

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            I remember whites saying he was too black, poc saying he was too white, and leftists saying he’s too corporate.

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              I remember centrists calling Bill Clinton the “first black president.” Guess they don’t want to give up the title.

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                Omg I don’t remember that. The real oppression, amirite?! 🤦‍♀️

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            Obama has a white mother, and was raised by her exclusively in a city that is less than 3% black. Eminem is blacker than Obama.

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          It’s not like James Brown is likely to run in 2028, so what’s your point?

          The reason we have a fascist groundswell in this country is the same reason any country has ever had a fascist groundswell.

          1. Wealth inequality drives populism.
          2. Wealthy liberals shut out left populism.
          3. Right populism benefits and quickly turns fascist.
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          Oh word we can call black people “not black” because they don’t “act black” or aren’t “dark enough” again? Back in my day that was a racism.

          Or is it because he’s mixed? 'Cause that’d be less surprising, historically they’ve been shunned by both racial communities and have trouble identifying with either, and afaict we haven’t caught up to the whole “maybe that’s racist too” thing yet and they can still safely be considered “not really black” by black people and simultaneously “not really white” by white people now that the whole “one drop” business is over. Schrödinger’s Race and all.

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            Oh word we can call black people “not black” because they don’t “act black” or aren’t “dark enough” again? Back in my day that was a racism.

            We can certainly point out that a person raised by a white parent in a city with less than three percent black people doesn’t really embody the typical black experience.

            Do you believe he would have gotten elected if he grew up in Detroit and spoke with an affect? If so, you have way more faith in American voters than I do.

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      Rules for thee and not for me from the looks of it.

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        Tell me your a white boy without saying you’re a white boy.