Fucking lmao. Nice to see you dodge the actual crimes that Russia has committed in exchange for absurd accusations and whataboutism. You have fun with your Jewish Nazi Zelenskyy delusions.
So, I don’t support the killing of anyone… regardless of what “side” you’re on. But, to play devil’s advocate… What’s your opinion on Ukraine implementing the social credit system, around the time they got invaded? And, this is the second time Russia has invaded Ukraine in a short period of time, why is it only now that we saw every website on the internet with “Here’s what we’re doing to support Ukraine”?
Inaction is on the side of injustice. The idea that Ukraine had implemented a ‘social credit’ system is conspiracy nonsense based around a government app trying to make it easier for people to get ahold of their documents.
The reasons for the current support are manifold. The shortest way to tell it is that 2014 annexation of Crimea was a shitshow where the Russians went for ‘plausible’ deniability while Ukraine was in the middle of a revolution, and put great effort into disguising their efforts to support separatists in the east. Now the Russians are quite openly ‘intervening’ in Ukraine, Ukraine is no longer going through a revolution and reorganization of its government, and Russian crimes against humanity are on a scale that dwarfs all participation in the previous ‘frozen conflict’ in the Donbass. tldr; they went bigger this time, and people find it harder to ignore.
Absolutely agree with inaction is on the side of injustice. Thank you for your input, I learned a couple of things I didn’t know about. Was just curious, and hope I didn’t come off as leaning in favor of anything. lol
If I came off as at all hostile, I do apologize. There’s a lot of… disingenuous discourse going around about the war, unfortunately, and it sets me on edge.
We live in weird times.
You might find this article on the Crimean incident interesting, dates to 2014.
If you’re interested in learning more about the history of Ukraine leading up to the current war, this video by Adam Something does a fantastic job summarizing the situation.
The only one who is deluded is you. They are wearing SS symbols and other Nazi symbols. Russia is not in the right either. Unlike you, I don’t support either side. The only reason the US is involved is because they’re money laundering. The US doesn’t give a shit about democracy or anything like that. They don’t care about the people of Ukraine or Russia. The US has done just as bad things.
Russians are the nazis here and Ukraine is perfect testing ground for US weapons. Every russian terrorist KIA brings a smile to my face. Greetings from Finland.
I like the fact that Lemmy is starting to feel more like reddit though, where there’s always someone in a pro-Ukraine post going: “bUt UkRaiNe hAs nAzis”.
Please don’t use phrases with fascist origins. There are better ways to express your support.
"The salutes, Za Dom -Spremni! (the Ustaše equivalent of the Nazi Sieg heil).and Slava Ukrainy!Heroiam Slava! (Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the Heroes!) fulfilled similar functions, were introduced at the same time, and were both to be carried out with a raised right arm. They were used by the groups that massacred Jews and called for revolutionary, deadly violence against their perceived enemies. In short, they were, just like analogous salutes employed by German, Austrian, French, Spanish, Hungarian, and Romanian groups fascist salutes.
Fucking lmao. Nice to see you dodge the actual crimes that Russia has committed in exchange for absurd accusations and whataboutism. You have fun with your Jewish Nazi Zelenskyy delusions.
So, I don’t support the killing of anyone… regardless of what “side” you’re on. But, to play devil’s advocate… What’s your opinion on Ukraine implementing the social credit system, around the time they got invaded? And, this is the second time Russia has invaded Ukraine in a short period of time, why is it only now that we saw every website on the internet with “Here’s what we’re doing to support Ukraine”?
Inaction is on the side of injustice. The idea that Ukraine had implemented a ‘social credit’ system is conspiracy nonsense based around a government app trying to make it easier for people to get ahold of their documents.
The reasons for the current support are manifold. The shortest way to tell it is that 2014 annexation of Crimea was a shitshow where the Russians went for ‘plausible’ deniability while Ukraine was in the middle of a revolution, and put great effort into disguising their efforts to support separatists in the east. Now the Russians are quite openly ‘intervening’ in Ukraine, Ukraine is no longer going through a revolution and reorganization of its government, and Russian crimes against humanity are on a scale that dwarfs all participation in the previous ‘frozen conflict’ in the Donbass. tldr; they went bigger this time, and people find it harder to ignore.
Absolutely agree with inaction is on the side of injustice. Thank you for your input, I learned a couple of things I didn’t know about. Was just curious, and hope I didn’t come off as leaning in favor of anything. lol
If I came off as at all hostile, I do apologize. There’s a lot of… disingenuous discourse going around about the war, unfortunately, and it sets me on edge.
We live in weird times.
You might find this article on the Crimean incident interesting, dates to 2014.
No worries, I didn’t take it that way at all. I, really, do appreciate the insight and resource!
If you’re interested in learning more about the history of Ukraine leading up to the current war, this video by Adam Something does a fantastic job summarizing the situation.
Awesome, thank you very much!
No worries - hope you find it interesting!
The only one who is deluded is you. They are wearing SS symbols and other Nazi symbols. Russia is not in the right either. Unlike you, I don’t support either side. The only reason the US is involved is because they’re money laundering. The US doesn’t give a shit about democracy or anything like that. They don’t care about the people of Ukraine or Russia. The US has done just as bad things.
Russians are the nazis here and Ukraine is perfect testing ground for US weapons. Every russian terrorist KIA brings a smile to my face. Greetings from Finland.
I like the fact that Lemmy is starting to feel more like reddit though, where there’s always someone in a pro-Ukraine post going: “bUt UkRaiNe hAs nAzis”.
Slava Ukraine!
Ribbit
Ooooh, fresh trolls. Then it looks like lemmy is picking up.
Please don’t use phrases with fascist origins. There are better ways to express your support.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/250746
Heroyam Slava!