You can be anti-NATO and anti- Putin. It’s not a mutually exclusive position. MLs are anti -NATO. Putin is anti-NATO. Their interests align. That doesn’t mean MLS are pro-Putin. This isn’t hard Vaush.
You can be anti-NATO without regurgitating Russian propaganda, just like in WW2 you can be anti-USSR without spewing pro-Nazi propaganda or justifying the invasion of sovereign states by Nazi forces.
And yet, Western tankies never fail to suck off the latest imperialist in the name of ‘anti-imperialism’. Wonder why that is. Couldn’t be because they’re fascists painted red, could it?
Have you actually talked with “tankies?” Yes, some are so anti-NATO that they veer into authoritarianism. But not all, or even most. I’ve had better discussions with tankies than liberals on here. Do I agree with everything they say? No. But I can understand where they’re coming from. Try talking with some. Are you pro-NATO?
Yes. Too many. I’ve been arguing with tankies for a decade and a half now. I once knew a guy from Aussieland who wrote long rambling screeds on how firebombing capitalists was the only way for the proletariat forward. I knew a Westerner who unironically praised Juche and decried everything anti-NK as capitalist propaganda. I knew an atheist-turned-ultra-Orthodox who critically praised Stalin.
I’ve talked to plenty of fucking tankies. Some of them aren’t inherently bad people, deep down. But they all have shitty views.
Yes, some are so anti-NATO that they veer into authoritarianism.
Are you… are you taking the piss?
The entire point of a ‘tankie’ is that they veer into authoritarianism.
‘Tankie’ doesn’t mean ‘socialist’, it means ‘apologist for the kind of regimes that would crush the socialist revolution of Hungary in 1956 for being the wrong kind of socialist’.
“Tankie doesn’t mean socialist” meaning “Tankie and socialist are not synonyms”. All tankies are (arguably) socialists, but not all socialists are tankies. Most socialists, since the fall of the USSR and the flow of funds from it, are not tankies.
By not answering if you are a socialist or if you’re pro-NATO, I can only assume you are a liberal or centrist. If that is the case, I can understand why you hate tankies. You are closer to MAGA then they are. Of course they’re your enemy.
You can be anti-NATO and anti- Putin. It’s not a mutually exclusive position. MLs are anti -NATO. Putin is anti-NATO. Their interests align. That doesn’t mean MLS are pro-Putin. This isn’t hard Vaush.
You can be anti-NATO without regurgitating Russian propaganda, just like in WW2 you can be anti-USSR without spewing pro-Nazi propaganda or justifying the invasion of sovereign states by Nazi forces.
And yet, Western tankies never fail to suck off the latest imperialist in the name of ‘anti-imperialism’. Wonder why that is. Couldn’t be because they’re fascists painted red, could it?
Have you actually talked with “tankies?” Yes, some are so anti-NATO that they veer into authoritarianism. But not all, or even most. I’ve had better discussions with tankies than liberals on here. Do I agree with everything they say? No. But I can understand where they’re coming from. Try talking with some. Are you pro-NATO?
Yes. Too many. I’ve been arguing with tankies for a decade and a half now. I once knew a guy from Aussieland who wrote long rambling screeds on how firebombing capitalists was the only way for the proletariat forward. I knew a Westerner who unironically praised Juche and decried everything anti-NK as capitalist propaganda. I knew an atheist-turned-ultra-Orthodox who critically praised Stalin.
I’ve talked to plenty of fucking tankies. Some of them aren’t inherently bad people, deep down. But they all have shitty views.
Are you… are you taking the piss?
The entire point of a ‘tankie’ is that they veer into authoritarianism.
‘Tankie’ doesn’t mean ‘socialist’, it means ‘apologist for the kind of regimes that would crush the socialist revolution of Hungary in 1956 for being the wrong kind of socialist’.
So you don’t consider tankies socialist? Are Marxist Leninist socialists? Are you socialist?
“Tankie doesn’t mean socialist” meaning “Tankie and socialist are not synonyms”. All tankies are (arguably) socialists, but not all socialists are tankies. Most socialists, since the fall of the USSR and the flow of funds from it, are not tankies.
By not answering if you are a socialist or if you’re pro-NATO, I can only assume you are a liberal or centrist. If that is the case, I can understand why you hate tankies. You are closer to MAGA then they are. Of course they’re your enemy.
lmao. Not a tankie, just using the same rhetoric as they do. Why don’t you call me a ‘social fascist’ next for believing in a democratic government?
Is MAGA or right conservatism more of a threat than tankies?