Not a good look for Mastodon - what can be done to automate the removal of CSAM?

    • @mindbleach
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      1 year ago

      Insult-dribbling troll repeats failed deflection.

      Doesn’t work this time either.

      Just stop lying about this topic. It’s kind of important.

      • @[email protected]
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        11 year ago

        Repeating over and over again that I’m equating drawings with rape isn’t going to cut it if people can just read what I wrote. Especially when nobody was even talking about rape in the first place

        • @mindbleach
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          11 year ago

          Child sexual abuse is rape.

          Thank you for demonstrating you have no idea what your words mean.

            • @mindbleach
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              11 year ago

              The irony of you repeatedly sneering “reading comprehension” is delightful.

              Yes, idiot, people can see my perfectly consistent point. Good job. I once told you to stop lumping together drawings with CSAM, and now, I’m still telling you stop lumping together drawings with CSAM.

              CSAM is a product of rape. Child rape is part of the subject matter. That is the “child abuse” that’s in the goddamn headline.

              Except the dolts at Stanford lumped in drawings.

              And you aggressively do not see the problem with treating those things the same way.

              Even though one is a drawing, and the other is rape. You are… equating… those two things. You are treating them identically and interchangeably.

              And you need to stop.

              • @[email protected]
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                “treating them the same” => The threshold for being banned is just already crossed at the lolicon level.

                From the perspective of the park, pissing in a pond and fighting a dude both get you thrown out. That doesn’t mean you’re “treating them the same”. You’re just the park.

                Do you get it now?

                • @mindbleach
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                  11 year ago

                  You’ve absolutely treated them the same.

                  You see no problem with this study explicitly about CSAM casually lumping in… drawings.

                  The only reason you said shit to me in the first place was to smugly assert that they belong together. You declared confidently that the entire world was on your side, which does raise questions of who exactly is hosting and using these servers full of drawings you don’t like.

                  But the issue is the false equivalence.

                  The only issue is the false equivalence.

                  Sounding the alarm about child rape shouldn’t fucking include drawings for the same reason reports of a murder epidemic at the local park shouldn’t throw in “and also someone pissed in the pond.” Bit of a difference there! Kind of important! Negative one and negative one billion are both negative, but they’re plainly not as negative, are they? They don’t belong in the same sentence without a very narrow context. Glibly chastising someone, for pointing out that gulf, is the polar opposite of helpful, to anyone.

                  Saying ‘so what, they’re both bad’ is false equivalence. It’s dangerous nonsense that enables far-reaching abuse of power. What you’re doing is the textbook basis for unjustifiable surveillance laws, censorship, and general moral policing. If your kneejerk reaction when someone belabors the difference between “we have to stop this proliferation of child rape!” and “we have to stop this proliferation of drawings we don’t like!” is to insist you don’t like either and you’d expect them to be treated the same - you are the problem.

                  I mean, not as much of a problem as child rape, but nonetheless, shut up already.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    11 year ago

                    The study is transparent about their definition of CSAM. At this point, if you don’t get it, you don’t get it. Sorry dude.