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  • @monknonoke
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    21 year ago

    I did not have an aneurysm, that’s pretty good! Acknowledged naman that in this country plastic use can’t be helped, not like it’s been banned by the government. Maganda na nga yung pag-reuse mo eh.

    May organization pa din pala for function of clothing :o that’s pretty cool, pick up ko rin ah thanks 😎 maybe I should find a mountain climbing geek too hahahaha

    • megane-kun
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      11 year ago

      Yeah, and basically, the main purpose behind using plastic in that scenario is to keep the clothes from getting wet when fording across a river, or when trekking during rains, or any mishap, really. Combined with the so-called ranger roll, I end up being able to put more clothes into my bag without worrying about dirty clothes messing up my clean clothes. A bonus side-effect is that my bag don’t smell like dirty clothes after a prolonged outing.

      So, bale the entire thing is as follows:

      • I take the item of clothing from the cabinet.
      • Since it’s already folded (except for the underwear, which are already ranger-rolled for storage), I unfold it a bit, just so that I have the entire length of clothing ready for rolling.
      • I take the the topmost part of the item of clothing (collar for tops, waist for pants and shorts) and start rolling there.
      • I make sure to make the roll as tight as I can to avoid any unnecessary creases
      • Once rolled tight, I take the item of clothing inside the plastic bag and roll it shut making sure there’s no air inside. Underwear skip to this step.

      And that’s it! I bundle up the rolls and put them in their separate plastic bags (one for tops, one for bottoms, another one for underwear) and put them inside the camping bag. I usually make sure to push all the air out as well.

      When putting back dirty clothes, I roll them as described above, and then take a plastic bag (the from the ones the clean clothes came out of), put it in there, and then place it in the designated “dirty clothes” plastic bag.

      I also try to pack the “more durable clothing” at the bottom, then any fragile stuff in the middle, surrounded by other less durable clothing (to absorb any impacts from the outside). Of course, I try to make sure that the most used items are on top, since it’d be a hassle fishing for stuff in a very tightly-packed camping bag. Also, I bring a spare eco-bag for when the dirty/wet stuff fails to pack properly. Learnt that lesson the hard way during an outing that involved swimming. Lol!

      Ayun, I know this is unsolicited advice, but I thought I’d just share to give more background behind my previous reply.

      • @monknonoke
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        21 year ago

        I don’t think that was unsolicited at all 😁 I like your system of packing, I’m really glad you elaborated more hahaha. Now I wanna know other stuff too but that would be too long, I think 😆

        What kind of food do you bring? Do you bring other kinds of equipment too, like ropes or something? Do you separate your dirty clothes from dirty wet clothes plastics? Once you’ve settled in your camp, do you dry the wet clothes eventually and put them in the dirty dry clothes bag? They do get pretty smelly if you leave them too long

        How about towels, aren’t they pretty bulky? Recently I bought a quick drying towel that should cut down the space (+time to dry) they take up in my bag but I haven’t tried it out yet 🤔

        Ayun, mga sample questions lang, you don’t have to answer hahahaha. It was a good explanation already 🙏 thanks!!!

        • megane-kun
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          1 year ago

          I’ve only hiked twice, and both are due to them being course requirements for my PE subject back in college. It’s also where I picked those things up (thanks to the mountain climbing geeks who volunteered to guide us newbies).

          Food, as I remember it correctly, would be things like adobo, or paksiw—food items that don’t spoil easily. Pwede rin ang delata, but the emphasis really is on food that is both compact and non-perishable. I remember one of those volunteers talking about a three-day climb, and being sick and tired of adobo afterwards. And oh, wag magdala ng kanin. Magdala ng bigas—para lutuin sa camp. Alam ko may nagluto rin ng hotdog sa campfire, but at that time, I was dragged into the woods by someone who thought I was also a stoner, lol! (I don’t, but I don’t mind people who do.)

          Other kinds of equipment would really depend on the climb being done. Yung sa akin, there wasn’t any special requirement other than a sleeping bag, a camping bag, and suitable footwear. Also, since we’re going through some bushes (dun sa Banahaw trip namin), it was also emphasized that we dress accordingly. Mejo technical climbs na yung kailangan ng ropes, and I don’t think anyone would seriously push a newbie into that. Not only does that expose you to unnecessary danger, it also puts even the most experienced members of the team in jeopardy (the newbs will drag the more experienced ones down, sometimes literally, lol). I think the Daguldol climb was our most “serious” climb, and that’s barely a couple of hours trek to the summit. Yung sa Banahaw, we weren’t allowed to go up the mountain proper, but only trek around the campsite area (IIRC, in a valley between Mt. San Cristobal and Banahaw near a Rizalista settlement). Kasama namin yung isang Rizal class naman, lol~ Same campsite, different itinerary.

          Towels, hmm, you know, I think it’s optional. For someone seriously into that “avoid any unnecessary bulk” mentality, it’s unnecessary bulk. So I imagine that kind of person would just “air dry” their body. But yeah, it’s possible to compress towels anyways, it just takes effort. Also, there are those vacuum seal plastics that can seriously compress towels inside a plastic bag. Ofc, once nagamit na, lol, that shit goes into the spare ecobag, I suppose. I say take what you think you need, but not much more, because you’d have to drag all that shit with you up and down the mountain (or the commute, which is frankly the same ordeal to me).

          Oh, electronic equipment! Powerbanks are a godsend. And keeping gadgets inside plastic bags when not in use is something that should be kept in mind. Alam ko may mga sealable, waterproof bags for electronic gadgets na binebenta.

          But yeah, a lot of these things can be picked up naman as you go on hikes and whatnot.

          • @monknonoke
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            21 year ago

            You had hiking trips for PE classes in college? What the heck, ba’t kami walang ganyan. That’s really disappointing lol.

            I go on hikes too pero usually mga day hike lang and yung camp somewhat modernized na kaya kung wala kang food may tindahan dyan na malapit so cooking isn’t that necessary.

            I have always wondered paano kaya kung pang multiple day climb, yan yung di ko pa na-experience. Sa towel naman nagdadala ako ng towel tapos pag hindi basa I also treat it as a blanket hahaha malamig eh.

            Stoners in the woods? I have definitely never encountered that before. Or baka di lang ako aware lol. It sounds not very safe 🤔

            • megane-kun
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              11 year ago

              Lol! I was lucky to be able to study in a university large enough to have the resources to offer such classes.

              Nung sa PE namin, we leave early morning Friday, and head back to Manila around Sunday afternoon. Saturday is when we do the actual climb. We didn’t spend overnight in the summit, though some of the volunteers told me that it’s quite an experience daw. They say the reason why we didn’t do that for the class is a lot of us are beginners, and don’t have the stamina to lug all of our belongings and equipment up and down the mountain. The volunteer looked at me as we both laughed. I was woefully out of shape back then, and it’s only through their help and sheer willpower that I made it to the summit, and back to camp.

              Ang nabanggit sa akin about multi-day climbs, may susundan na itinerary since habol nila na makaabot sa campground or summit before sundown. I am kinda sad that I am too out-of-shape for such, since di ko pa rin sya nararanasan.

              Yung stoner na sinabi ko in my previous reply was a classmate, tapos syempre dapat patago, kasi obviously, bawal. He even offered me some, but eh, not really my thing.

              • @monknonoke
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                11 year ago

                San kayo nag-overnight if not at the summit?

                Na-try ko na mag overnight once dati, grabe, gininaw lang talaga ako tapos triggered yung allergies ko sa lamig 😂 even sharing heat sa ka-close ko dun was not very helpful kasi malamig din sila 💀 kung nag multi-day kami tapos ganyan pa din nako baka suko na ako hahaha. Should’ve brought more layers.

                Ever plan to hike more in the future?

                • megane-kun
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                  21 year ago

                  Ah, dun kami sa campground nag-overnight.

                  And yeah, yung lamig sa gabi is one very good reason to invest in a good sleeping bag. I think nanghiram lang ako ng sleeping bag sa kapitbahay nun, and it was adequate naman. If I were to be serious about it in the future, it’s one of the things I need to invest in.

                  I want to hike more in the future, but I need to get into shape first.