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    A far more savvy politician than I could ever be. While her diction is nonchalant, she adeptly insulates herself from the larger question of alien existence by focusing on the legality of the whistleblower complaint as it directly relates to appropriations, which falls under her congressional mandate. This removes any question about her reliability based on whether or not she believes aliens exist, dodging the trope of the “leftist weirdo hippie alien believer”. She then brings the spectacle of the hearings back around to the focus on the monetary corruption of DoD contractors and ties it in the end to her constituents core concerns (housing, heallthcare, etc). Masterful work if you’re studying political theater.

    But it doesn’t answer the real question most of us have for her and everyone else in government:

    For fuck’s sake, are they here or not already?

    Speaking as to the attraction of the issue and why it cuts across party lines - regardless of your political affiliation, this is a subject that affects what it means to be human. From what you can see in how AOC speaks around the subject, it’s almost too dangerous to talk about at all, because then it brings up questions that have very dangerous potential answers.

    If aliens are here and revealed, what does that mean for us as a species? What’s our next step? How do we engage them? How do we protect ourselves from them? How do we make friends with them?

    And how do we keep ourselves from killing them off?

    • ᗪᗩᗰᑎ
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      01 year ago

      For fuck’s sake, are they here or not already?

      They’re not here. Full stop.

      Aliens have never visited nor have they ever crash-landed on Earth.

      The level of technological advancement required for interstellar travel is unfathomable to us and, frankly, naive of us to even consider whether they’ve “visited us” or not as we probably wouldn’t even recognize them if they did. It would be the equivalent of humanity wondering if one of our car crashes might be discovered by ants. The answer is no. An entire ant colony could be staring directly at a car crash and they wouldn’t even be aware that anything different is going on.

      Einstein’s theory of relativity tells us that any object with mass cannot reach the speed of light (required for interstellar travel) because it’s mass would become infinite, requiring an infinite amount of energy to continue acceleration. This means one of two things:

      1. They have the technology to transform themselves into energy and beam across the universe (light has no mass so they can now travel at the speed of light).
      2. They have the technology to warp space-time, allowing them to travel between points in space-time (like the famous example we always see in movies where the scientists bends a sheet a paper and shoves a pen through for illustration).

      The first option is highly unlikely as you could probably guess, a device would need to convert you to energy and then back into mass. This prevents you from traveling anywhere new.

      The second option is also highly unlikely as you’d need a device (and energy) to BEND SPACE AND TIME.

      Basically, if there will ever be aliens, it will probably be us. The universe is relatively young even at nearly 14 billion years and - at least based on our own evolutionary/historical timeline - it’s completely possible we are the first species that have ever left our own planet. While there is very likely life scattered throughout the universe, but it doesn’t mean they’re smart or even capable of thought, let alone interstellar travel.

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        11 year ago

        I’d put more weight into your post if I hadn’t seen UAPs firsthand, several before drones took to the skies, and in the presence of multiple reliable witnesses.

        Secondly, your understanding of warp physics is somewhat out of date, as the biggest issue around the development of such a field is not creating energy, but rather creating negative energy, and the technology is under active study by a number of reputable scientific teams.

        As such your premise that such travel isn’t possible is flawed and short-sighted. Just because we haven’t accomplished a thing doesn’t mean it’s impossible - just ask the Wright Brothers.

        The remainder of your post is declarative and anecdotal, and is trying to prove a negative, a difficult if not impossible task given the infinite span of the universe. In fact, it’s far more likely, just speaking in terms of probability, that intelligent life exists outside our planet than the entire reach of reality being a wasteland save for our small green dot.

        That being said, I appreciate the time you took to respond, even if I disagree with your opinion. I suggest you take a look at the link above - it may broaden your horizons regarding what’s possible.