• Xariphon
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    221 year ago

    I kind of feel like both are true.

    The threat of starvation and homelessness is a pretty strong coercion to keep working at all

    …but nobody’s really stopping you from job-hunting if you really hate this particular job rather than the concept of having a job at all.

    I’m not going to sit here and be like “just go back to school, get certifications, blah blah blah” because seriously fuck that. You and whose fuckin’ Time Turner?

    That said, even looking for a less-awful workplace doing the same thing you’re already doing could be an improvement in your overall mental health and life situation. A small step, maybe, but I know from myself and people around me that it can be a step.

    • @[email protected]
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      You need to be very certain though. What if the new job doesn’t work out and they decide 6 months later they don’t need you after all? Having a job, as shitty as it might be, is stability. Changing a system always comes with risks.

      (Never mind that a different job needs to even be available without moving your whole life elsewhere)

      • @[email protected]
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        31 year ago

        Your current shitty job could do the same thing.

        You should always be casually interviewing. Your current employer should be passively fighting to keep you (with the conditions and comp and growth your are experiencing there). If another job offers more, off you should go.

        • @[email protected]
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          11 year ago

          True, it could also happen to my current job. But then I haven’t actively done anything to cause it. I haven’t gone out of my way to change the situation and thus made it worse. That’s a big factor in why people are afraid of change, the risk of actively and inadvertently making it worse, instead of passively enduring.

          (Disclaimer: I’m on disability so I don’t have a “current job” and I also live in a place with decently sane labour laws)

          • @SCB
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            This is just accepting the same amount of risk but denying yourself agency in improving your life.

            Ask yourself if you would accept that in any other situation - same risk, but no agency. I’d hope the answer is no.

          • @AshLassay
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            But just enduring the current job also comes with a risk even in a country with strong labor laws. Not changing jobs comes with stagnation of skills and wages. I’ve heard plenty of stories of loyal employees who worked the same job for decades but who now earn less than the new hires and they are now at a point where switching jobs is hard since their skill set hasn’t improved for years. Risk averse people are also often too afraid to even renegotiate their wages. And bosses know that and exploit that.

    • LostCause
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      That feels like a musical chairs approach to this issue, where people who find a good job are lucky and sit in that and the rest shuffle between the shitty job leftovers. I recently found a decent job and it‘s only cause the guy retired after 30 years. Now I can only hope they will keep me on, or else I get to participate in that awful game again. Or maybe it will turn shitty for some other reason, like how there is no raises and my rent keeps going up anyway.

      We even got unions in my country, and still we ended up like this where a lot of people switch jobs every few years to try and keep up with inflation. I’m not saying don’t take that step though. Sorry, I got no point I think? Just a rant your comment inspired in me.

    • Flying Squid
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      41 year ago

      but nobody’s really stopping you from job-hunting if you really hate this particular job

      Yes and no. It might be extremely difficult to get an interview due to the hours you’re currently working.

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        • Flying Squid
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          21 year ago

          How is it a weak ass excuse? If you’re scheduled to work during the hours that interviews are available, what the hell are you supposed to do?

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          • @SCB
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            11 year ago

            Call your boss. Tell them you’re sick. Go to the interview.

            • Flying Squid
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              Can you? Are you sure? You really think there aren’t people who have trouble scheduling interviews due to their current job’s schedule?

              • @[email protected]
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                11 year ago

                I think there are people that have trouble with a lot of things, but as far as practical advice for living in society, I think that’s a shit excuse.

                For anyone that trapped, you have my sympathies.

    • @twoshoes
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      I agree with you to an extent. From my personal experience, working at a string of shitty companies, some industries don’t provide better opportunities. In service jobs for example you usually can only choose between being treated like “a piece of shit” or “a human who is also a piece of shit”.

      Additionally, working 8 hours as a punching bag, plus 1 hour unpaid overtime, plus 2 hour commute doesn’t leave much energy to write applications.

      I also managed to get out of it eventually, but I’ve always been overqualified for the service industry and always had problems with authority, which made it easier for me to question the way I was treated. Still it was way harder than it had to be.

    • @[email protected]
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      Nobodys stopping you but having a miserable job can take its toll and can affect your job hunt. At least it did for me. After years of failed job hunts and a difficult battle with MDD and alcoholism my Dr signed me off sick until I got a new job. In a short period I had 3 job offers.

      3months off with full pay. Spent a couple days a week job hunting. Rest of the time went walking in the national parks with my dog. At the end I had a 60% better paying job, no more commute, no more being voluntold to drive around the country to tasks I had zero training for and much better colleagues. One of my best times of my life.